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To: MayflowerMadam; JDoutrider

“Bank runs/Bank closings are coming.”<<<

We did not really know what was coming, when this thread started, but a lot of us could feel it in the air.

Then there are a few who really do know how to read the signs....As does JD.


6,051 posted on 10/21/2008 3:37:54 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
~~~Blush!~~~ You are too kind Granny!

By the way, I tried out that See's candy Fudge recipe, but added a bunch more milky chocolate chips to it (along with the semi chocolate)... Whew! The recipe made 5 POUNDS!

I gave most of it away... I'm getting calls from strange women propositioning me! LOL!

It DID come out better than I thought it would!

6,058 posted on 10/21/2008 5:57:41 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Pray for our Nation! Stop the big Zero!)
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To: All; MayflowerMadam

Grabbed a quick look at this group and they are getting ready for riots, associated with the election.

It appears in more than one town, if you have anti-obama bumper stickers, they will attack your car and slash your tires.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HunkerDown06/


6,061 posted on 10/21/2008 6:30:36 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; MayflowerMadam

LOL, this is also talking about the danger of riots and which radios to buy.

They will talk about anything that is related to survival.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/


6,062 posted on 10/21/2008 6:33:39 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; MayflowerMadam

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/message/89090

Re:Free Water ?

We ‘harvest’ rain (I still smile at that term). Have done all my life as
I have never lived in an area with scheme water but we are a dry
continent and we don’t have the problems of freezing that many of you
have in winter, which is when our rain falls.

We collect and store from sheds and houses, all up maybe 60,000+
gal(IMP), which includes some that is not potable. All buildings in AU
have gutters; most in suburbia runs straight into the sewer but more and
more people are diverting small amounts into storage tanks for home use
as water restrictions bight harder.

Would love to have a well/bore but there is none under us that is
drinkable and the deep aquifer we aren’t allowed into.


Ginny - In West Australia

> Is anyone out there harvesting rainwater ?
>
> I have two 55 gallon barrels that fill from my gutters and is used for
> watering the garden and livestock. The plants and animals LOVE
> rainwater. I have a well I drilled myself that I use that for potable
> water but the rainwater system is in place if that well ever fails.


6,063 posted on 10/21/2008 6:39:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; MayflowerMadam

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/message/89010

Re: Free Water and filtering

Below is a link that will show you how to filter the roof water if
needed. Granted, it is for a kitchen sink installation, but it is a
step in the right direction. The filtering system is on the right hand
side of page one.

http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/abeng/plans/nd8511-4-1.pdf

-— In misc_survivalism_moderated@yahoogroups.com, “lamar5292”

>
> Here is a great article on rain water harvesting from off-grid.net.
>
> Is anyone out there harvesting rainwater ?
>
> I have two 55 gallon barrels that fill from my gutters and is used for
> watering the garden and livestock. The plants and animals LOVE
> rainwater. I have a well I drilled myself that I use that for potable
> water but the rainwater system is in place if that well ever fails.
>
> Here is a link to the article:
>
> http://www.off-grid.net/2008/08/31/free-water/
>
> LaMar
> http://www.freewebs.com/simplesolarhomesteading
>


6,064 posted on 10/21/2008 6:42:17 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; MayflowerMadam

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated/message/88975

I have 4 big rain barrels that serve my gardens (and my hair!) well. I have
keep a couple of minnows/goldfish in them, though, to help keep down all
those blasted mosquitoes....
Shona


6,065 posted on 10/21/2008 6:51:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; gardengirl; DAVEY CROCKETT; Calpernia

News from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs
Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 24, 2008
Release #09-023

Firm’s Hotline: (888) 282-4674
CPSC Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

CPSC and Carter’s Advise Parents of Rashes Associated with Heat Transferred, or “Tag-less,” Labels

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) and Carter’s, Inc., of Atlanta, Georgia, are advising parents and caregivers that they have received reports that a small percentage of babies and infants have developed rashes on the upper back after wearing Carter’s clothing with heat-transferred, or “tag-less,” labels.

This advisory applies to Carter’s Fall 2007 product line. The Fall 2007 line utilizes a label on the inside back of the garment that has a raised surface with a solid, rather than a stenciled, background. This advisory does not apply to previous and current product lines, which utilize labels with stenciled backgrounds.

The garments, which were made in various countries, were sold at Carter’s own retail stores and at department and national chain stores.

If your child develops a rash on the upper back after wearing garments that have a “tag-less” label with a solid background, you should stop using these garments. If the rash persists or worsens, you should contact your pediatrician. For additional information, visit Carter’s website at http://www.carters.com/corporate/tagless_message.aspx, contact Carter’s toll free at 1-888-282-4674 or by email at contactus@carters.com

To see this release on CPSC’s web site, including pictures of the products involved in this advisory, please go to: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09023.html


6,073 posted on 10/25/2008 4:26:08 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All

http://mjwilsonblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/classes-and-certifications.html

Classes and Certifications

[Live links at site link]

For those that are interested here are a list of my completed classes and certifications. You can also go to the website to get these Certificates and Classes yourself by clicking on the institues name above each class and certificate. All the certificates are free and the only one that costs are the AMU college classes.

FEMA Emergency Management Institute Certificates:

IS-00003-Radiological Emergency Mangement-Awarded 12/06/2007

IS-00331-Intro. to Radiological Emergency Preparedness Exercise Eval.-Awarded 12/17/2007

Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) Basic- Awarded 01/31/2008

Texas A&M Health Science Center School of Rural Public Health:

WMD PER304 (PER 304NE20290-Medical Effects of Primary Blast Injuries-Awarded 01/11/2008

AWR 110 (005)-WMD/Terrorism Awareness for Emergency Responders- Awarded 01/14/2008

WMD PER301 (PER301NE2026)- Children and Nerve Agents- Awarded 01/14/2008

WMD PER305 (PER305NE2030)- Bacillus Anthracis- Awarded 01/14/2008

WMD PER306 (PER306NE2031)- Botulism- Awarded 01/14/2008

WMD PER307 (PER307NE2032)- Avian Flu- Awarded 01/14/2008

AWR 111 (002a AWR-110)- Basic EMS Concepts for WMD Incidents- 01/23/2008

National Center for Biomedical Research & Training Academy of Counter-Terrorist Education:

GEN RC01 (RC001)- Foundational Awareness of WMD/Terrorism-Awarded 01/10/2008

GEN 0001 (0003)- Prevention and Deterrence - Overview for all Disciplines-Awarded 01/10/2008

LE 001 (0003)- Prevention and Deterrence for Law Enforcement-Awarded 01/11/2008

GEN RC02 (RC001)- Introduction to NIMS/NRP-Awarded 01/11/2008

GEN RC03 (RC001)- Effects of WMD/T Incidents on Mass Feeding- Awarded 01/14/2008

New Mexico Tech Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center: Respond! Web Campus:

FR 011 (AWR-132)- Understanding & Planning for School Bomb Incidents- Awarded 01/11/2008

American Military University:

EN101-Proficiency in Writing-(A)
EN202-Compostion and Literature-(A)
EN120-Creative Writing-(A-)
EN333-Folklore-(B-)

HM214-Science Fiction and Fantasy-(A)
HM221-English Literature: Beowulf to 18th Century-(Current)

HS131-Eastern Civilizations before 1500-(A-)
HS111-World Civilizations before 1650-(D)
HS121-Western Civilizatons before Thirty Years War-(C+)

IS300-Research Methods in Intelligence Studies-(Current)
IS430-Spycraft (Intelligence Tradecraft)-(A)
IS420-Intelligence and Assassination-(Current)

IR477-Introduction to Space Studies-(Scheduled 10/2008)

MA112-College Algebra-(C-)

PH101-Introduction to Philosophy-(A)

RQ295-Foundations of On-line Learning-(A)
RQ307-Introduction to Intelligence-(A)

SS131-International Relations I-(A)
SS133-Introduction to Sociology-(D-)
SS190-Introduction to Anthropology-(B-)

SC104-Introduction to Astronomy-(Current)
SC124-Introduction to Astronomy Lab-(Current)

As I progress through my classes and certifications I will update the class listings.
Posted by Miller J. Wilson


6,081 posted on 10/25/2008 6:23:56 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

http://mjwilsonblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/food-storage.html

Saturday, October 4, 2008
Famines and Food Storage
As many people have come to this site looking for tips on preparing for a famine and food storage I have decided to write this article to help out. It is important to remember that in a famine there will still be some food but not enough for everyone in the world. Countries will stop exporting food in order to have enough for their own people and violence will erupt where people are starving. You will be able to buy food when it is available but only in small quantities and you will need enough stored to get you and your family through the times that food is scarce. In the past famines were relatively short, lasting only a couple of years, and only affected small regions of the world. In modern times famines happen frequently in third world nations due to droughts and war. These famines have little chance of affecting modern countries like the US and European nations. The famines that will effect modern nations are ones that are more severe and will effect the entire world. These famines will most likely last for several years as they will be caused by the inability of farmers to produce enough food to feed the population of the Earth and will need a large decline in the population or technology to be created and implemented that will allow for larger amounts of food to be produced on less land. Because of the level of mass starvation that will happen in a world wide famine violence will ensue as wars are fought for vital food supplies and individuals try to get or protect their food supplies and the cost of food increases to levels that most people cannot afford as the demand increases to levels far above the supply levels. This will also affect other industries making all goods cost more to produce and shortages in labor and materials increase.

Now I know I paint a gloomy picture but a quick study of areas where past and current famines are reveals this is the reality of famines. So the best way to be prepared for a famine is to know the reality of what happens. The next thing to do is to start storing up supplies that you will need during a famine. Other than the obvious food you should have the following items in your supply:

* Batteries- These should include batteries for flashlights, electronic devices, vehicles, and solar or wind power set ups.
* Water Filters and Purifcation Systems- When things get bad services like clean drinking water disappear fast. If this happens you need a way to get safe drinking water. My suggestion is to spend the money and get a ocean vessel water purification system that can both turn salt water as well as the most polluted water into safe drinking water and they usually run of a vehicle battery. They will cost you several thousand dollars for the initial system but they could save your life.
* Medications- This includes any over the counter medicines like Asprin, Ibuprofen, cough syrup, allergy medicine, ect. as well as your prescription medicines. You can purchase 3 months prescription at one time so make sure you have that at all times.
* Books, Games, Music- I know this does not seem vital to life but people need a release from stress in order to think effectively. So keep things that entertain you and your family around so that when things get stressful you have a way to destress and so your not fighting with each other.
* First Aid Kit- This is good to have in all situation as people can get hurt anytime. You should make your own first aid kit instead of buy a store bought as you will have certain things that only you need. My suggestion is to include a bee sting kit, compress bandages, scalpal, a can or two of ether (most starting fluid is ether but make sure first,) and other surgical equipment in case you need it and can’t get to a hospital.
* Solar Power and Wind Generator Setups- This is another item that costs a lot at to set up initially but it will ensure that you have at least some power to run your water filtration systems and some appliances.
* Garden- Whether it is out doors or an indoor garden setup it is a good idea to have this. It will help supplement your diet with fresh fruits and vegetables and you may even be able to trade what you can’t use for other supplies.
* Guns and Ammunition- Other than the obvious use to protect you family during a famine having guns and ammunition will also allow you to hunt and supplement your diet with fresh meat. Even if you live in a city there are things you can hunt and eat even if you would only eat them if you were starving.
* Emergency Communication System- This can be any thing such as walkie-talkie sets, CB radios, or HAM Raidos. The important thing is that you have a way to communicate with people in the event of an emergency or if phone and internet systems go down.

Now for the part that most of you seem to be looking for and that is what should be in your food storage. Simply put your food storage should have the foods that you eat regularly. Storing beans, wheat, rice, or anything else that you never eat will do you no good because it takes time for you stomach to produce the enzymes to digest these foods if your diet does not already include them. If you have these things or other foods that you do not eat regularly in your food storage either start having one meal a week with them included or remove them from your food storage. Now some great foods to have in your storage, as long as you eat them regularly, are all types beans, wheat, rice, dry peas, peanuts, sugar, flour, honey, salt, pepper, cooking spices, vegetables, eggs, milk, cheese, fruits, powdered drinks, juice, yeast, cereal, chocolate, vinegar, and any other food you find on the dry shelves of grocery stores. Basically you are only limited by your imagination on what you have in your food storage.

Now that you know what you can store the next topic is the various ways of storing food which has been another popular subject for my readers. When it comes to storing food you have several options which include canning, freezing, drying, and vacuum packing.

Canning is the most common way to store food and you can do it to most foods. The problem I have with canning is that metal cans are not very healthy and if foods are not canned properly they can give you botulism. Also the process of canning foods tends to destroy most of the nutrients in foods and so they are not of much value. If you do not believe me just look at the nutritional information on a can of food and then compare it to the nutritional value of the fresh or frozen version of the same food and you will see the difference. Cans also take up a lot of space so if you have a limited storage area you can’t store as much food. For those of you interested here is the USDA’s guide to home canning link http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/publications/publications_usda.html

Freezing is another common method of storing food that everyone uses. The advantage of freezing is that you can store fresh food and use it later so that you do not lose the nutrients in the food. The drawback is that you either have to live in a cold climate or have a freezer that requires electricity to keep the foods frozen. The other problem is that most foods can only be stored in a freezer for a few months to a year at max. Now I know some people, me including, have eaten food that has been in a freezer for more than a year even if the suggested time is a couple of months and not suffered any ill effects. Since I do not know the exact consequences of eating food that has been stored longer than the suggested time I won’t advise it. What I do know is that the food kept frozen longer than the suggested time did not taste as good to me as the food that had been in the freezer a shorter time. Here is the USDA guide for freezing various foods http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/freeze.html The link for Animal Products describes the process for freezing milk and eggs.

Drying food is perhaps the best bet for food storage. You can easily purchase powdered milk and eggs and it is easy to dry meat, fruits, and vegetables at home. There is not a single food that I know of that can’t be dried safely as long as you cut it into small enough pieces. The other advantage to dry foods is that most foods shrink considerably and so you can store a lot more in the same amount of space. The other advantage is that most dry foods retain nutrional values close to their fresh counter parts and they keep indefinately. The draw back to dry foods is that you have to use more water to either reconstitute them for cooking or for drinking so that you don’t become dehydrated. Here is the USDA guide for drying food http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/dry.html and the guide for curing and smoking http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/cure_smoke.html

Vaccuum Packing- The final way to store food is to vaccuum seal it. You can buy everything from milk and eggs to noodles to fruits and vegetables that are vaccuum packed and can be stored in your dry storage. The advantage of this method is that you get the benefits of having fresh food without having to worry about having it spoil or kept cold. The disadvantage is that it is bulkier than dried food and unless you have the equipment and know how to do it yourself you have to purchase it which is expensive. Since I have very little expierence with doing this method myself I won’t give any advice other than if you want to do it yourself then do some research and take a class if you can.

Now I know that some of you were going through the list and were surprised to see milk and eggs on the list of storable food and wondering how in the world can you store those items. As I mentioned you can find milk and eggs preserved using all the methods above but there is another way that you do everyday without knowing. If you take a look around your house I’m sure you will find cheese, butter, bread, noodles, and other foods that have milk and eggs in their ingredients that you can store. The fact is that most food came around not only because it tasted good but it was a way that our ancestors found to store food that normally went bad. Cheese and flan are both products that were originally made as a way of preserving milk without the need for cold temperatures for long periods of time. Noodles and bread also are ways to preserve eggs and milk. Noodles are a great way to preserve eggs because you don’t cook them just simply dry them after they have been cut and store them for as long as you want. So take a look around at what you already have stored that contains milk and eggs and stock up on those items.

For those of you who want more information on how to store food the link for the USDA Guide for storing food is http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/store.html I hope that this helps everyone out and gives them a place to at least start preparing for a famine or building a food storage.
Posted by Miller J. Wilson


[I did not check this link..granny]

Rebecca said...

Thanks for the article! Here is a great resource on food storage information as well as purchasing food storage:

http://www.shelfreliance.com/library/browse/
October 7, 2008 7:28 AM


6,082 posted on 10/25/2008 6:33:42 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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[An interesting collection of articles, about gardens, all types of them, many on small lots and roof tops....granny]

1918 - The Child’s Food Garden
Every boy and every girl who has a garden at home, or who is given a plot in a school
garden, ought to learn to do the work successfully. Yet, as the author has found,
children, especially those who live in cities and towns, know little or nothing
about producing anything from the soil, and since the teacher cannot always be present
to direct the work, there is a danger that discouraging mistakes will be made.
1940 Film - Children learn to be urban farmers
1940 ‘Gardening’ an instructional sound film. (10 minutes)
Produced by Erpi Classroom Films Inc.
In collaboration with Ellen Eddy Shaw, MA
Brooklyn Botanic Garden
Encyclopedia Britannica Films - ‘Bring the world to the Classroom”
Metro Vancouver eyes sky-rise farming
Rooftop gardens and vertical greenhouses could be a sign of the times in Metro Vancouver
as the region wrestles with ways to tackle a global food crisis and the effects
of climate change.
And Surrey could lead the trend, with at least one developer considering building
a so-called vertical farm in Whalley, which is slated to become the region’s second
downtown.
Documentary - ‘Homegrown’ The 21st Century Family Farm
HOMEGROWN follows the Dervaes family who run a small organic farm in the heart of
urban Pasadena, California. While “living off the grid”, they harvest over 6,000
pounds of produce on less than a quarter of an acre, make their own bio diesel,
power their computers with the help of solar panels, and maintain a website that
gets 4,000 hits a day. The film is an intimate human portrait of what it’s like
to live like “Little House on the Prairie” in the 21st Century.
Revised bylaw will welcome urban farming - Victoria BC 2008
Farming will soon become a legitimate home occupation in Victoria. Victoria councillors
have approved changes to the municipality’s zoning bylaw to include urban agriculture
as an allowable home occupation for up to two people living in a house.
The change won’t mean dairy cattle or hogs competing for space in your neighbour’s
garden shed, though. Under the bylaw, urban agriculture will defined as the growing
of fruit or vegetables only.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All stories here:
City Farmer News [http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001QVyfIggG96epG1xuIsJmOSiTs4DVZ5r5rA6MsIJURBEzjaNu3587ZlWDcs4yA8yyFVKlHw4f-0MytdTPBPaQ3W_sLsc1rKHJgopWzfXQHENMjpTDt4wDhA==]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Michael Levenston
City Farmer - Canada’s Office of Urban Agriculture

http://www.cityfarmer.info/


6,085 posted on 10/26/2008 5:43:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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Made a New Recipe

Hi Everyone!!

I was in a quandary tonight about what to make for dinner, so I devised my
own recipe. And it actually was rather good. My husband who VERY rarely
says anything is good, stated it was ‘okay’ and ‘you can make it again’.
Coming from anyone else it would mean just that but coming from him that
means he really liked it!!

Here is what I made.

2 lbs. ground beef

1 medium onion, chopped

2 cans (15 oz.) stewed tomatoes

1 can (36 oz.?) mixed beans (you can use whatever you like)

3 boxes Au Gratin Potatoes (favorite brand)

Favorite mixed seasoning

Preheat oven to 400 degrees.

Brown the ground beef, add the onion. Cook until beef is well done and
onions are tender. Drain fat off and set aside. In same frying pan, add
tomatoes and heat them to boiling, so that some of the liquid boils off.
Spoon meat over top of tomatoes, sprinkle your favorite mixed seasoning over
top. I used a homemade Black Magic mix, very spicy. Keep at a medium temp
until most of the liquid is cooked off.

In the meantime, mix up the sauce part of the au gratin potatoes as directed
on the box. Do not add the potatoes to this.

In a large baking dish, I used a dutch oven, spoon the hamburger mixture
into the bottom of the dish. Layer beans on top of meat, then layer the
potatoes on top of the beans. Now pour the au gratin mixture over
everything.

Bake, uncovered, until potatoes are soft and au gratin has thickened with a
crust on top. About 50 minutes. Remove from oven, let stand for 10-15
minutes to let it cool a bit before spooning onto plates.

Serve with biscuits or cornbread, and favorite side dishes. I opened a jar
of my home canned glazed carrots.

Dinner was very yummy!! Everyone loved it!! I did good!!

Sheri

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/home_canning/


6,089 posted on 10/26/2008 6:25:56 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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Posted by: “sheila”

Fresh Cranberry and Orange Relish

1 pound fresh cranberries, rinsed
1 15-ounce can mandarin oranges with juice (or pineapple chunks with juice)
1 cup sugar (or Splenda)
1 cup chopped pecans (or nut of choice)

Drain oranges, pouring juice into pan. Add cranberries. Cook on low heat until cranberries pop. Stir in sugar, add additional if not sweet enough. Remove from heat and cool. When ready to serve, stir in oranges and pecans.

Everything but the nuts can be mixed together and canned in BWB for 10 minutes. Set canning jar in refrigerator and stir in nuts just before serving

Sheila (Virginia)


From: “Linda

My Fresh Cranberry recipe... The longer it sits the
better it gets!

Fresh Cranberry Relish
2 medium Oranges, peeled and seeded and cut into 2 inch pieces
1 medium Granny Smith apple — peeled, cored and cut into 2-inch chunks
1 Tablespoon lemon juice
1 Bag of Cranberries, fresh or frozen
1/2 cup sugar (or to taste)
1/2 cup coarsely chopped walnuts
DIRECTIONS

In a food processor, combine the orange, apple and lemon juice and pulse
until chopped. Add the cranberries and pulse until the berries are coarsely
chopped. Transfer to a bowl and stir in the sugar and walnuts.

Notes:
Some people like to leave the rind on the orange, but I don’t. I like mine a
little more coarse than some, so I don’t process it long. One Holiday, my
food processor was broken, so I used my blender for the cranberries and
chopped everything else up by hand and it turned out great. I think you
could use a hand crank meat grinder too.
You can use navel or valencia oranges.

MAKE AHEAD: The relish can be refrigerated for up to 1 week. I make extra
because my kids can’t get enough


Join our sister group for access to all the recipes and files for Home
canning, this is a file access only group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/home_canning_meltingpot/

To change mail setting or contact owner/moderator visit the website:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/home_canning/


6,092 posted on 10/26/2008 6:43:11 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; Calpernia; gardengirl

http://lindisfarmeoberhalidairygoats.blogspot.com/

Lindisfarme Oberhasli Dairy Goats

My hobby and passion is my dairy goat herd of Oberhasli goats. This blog is a chat about the herd and about the breed.


I have not worked with this breed, but they look good and the one bag photo, would have suited me fine for milking.

Linda has a good blog, some science and lots of love for animals.


6,093 posted on 10/26/2008 6:49:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; gardengirl

[Unless your creative urges are under good control, do not go to this page, it made my mind whirl, and the comments on the paper page, are excellent...granny...who thinks this would be great fun...LOL]

Now, we’re making handmade paper sheets with Celluclay - and solving some “sticky” issues
in the process:

http://web.mac.com/jwesolek/iWeb/cre8it/Blog/Blog.html

Enjoy,

jessica


6,096 posted on 10/27/2008 1:57:54 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; Calpernia; metmom

CONTAMINATED FOOD - JAPAN: INSECTICIDE, CYANIDE, RECALLS
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A ProMED-mail post
http://www.promedmail.org
ProMED-mail is a program of the
International Society for Infectious Diseases
http://www.isid.org

[1] Insecticide in noodles
[2] Cyanide in well water

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[1] Insecticide in noodles
Date: Fri 24 Oct 2008
Source: USA Today, Associated Press (AP) report [edited]
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-10-24-noodles-recall_N.htm?csp=34

Recall issued for tainted Japanese noodles


One of Japan’s largest instant noodle makers said Friday [24 Oct
2008] it was issuing a nationwide recall after a woman grew sick when
she ate a cup of noodles that was later found to be tainted with an
insecticide.

Nissin Food Products, Co., which makes the Cup Noodle brand instant
noodles, said it was recalling the products and advised customers not
to eat noodles that had an odd smell or damaged packaging.

[snipped]

Nissin president Susumu Nakagawa said the noodles could not have been
contaminated at his company’s factories. “We have confirmed that the
chemical is not and has not ever been used in this product,” he told
reporters at a press conference late Thursday [23 Oct 2008].

snipped.

The noodles were found to be contaminated with
paradichlorobenzene, a chemical used in bug repellent.

On Friday [24 Oct 2008], the Japanese Consumers’ Co-operative Union,
which runs a chain of cooperative supermarkets, said it had found the
chemical in several varieties of Cup Noodle made by Nissin and was
pulling the products from its stores.

continued.

Communicated by:
ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall

[Nissin pot noodles are sold widely. I remember them in Indonesia

http://www.nissinfoods.com/cupnoodles
http://ramenlovers.blogspot.com/search/label/Indonesia
and at Tesco supermarkets in the UK
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/Nissin_-_Pot_Noodles_In_Tesco.html
- Rapp.MM]

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[2] Cyanide in well water
Date: Sun 26 Oct 2008
Source: The Malaysian Insider, Associated Press (AP) report [edited]
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/world/11213-japanese-sausage-recall-after-cyanide-scare

Japanese sausage recall after cyanide scare


A major Japanese meat processor said Sunday [26 Oct 2008] it was
recalling millions of packages of sausages and pizzas after finding
cyanide in water at one of its plants.

Itoham Foods Inc. said in a public notice published in national
newspapers that tests have found up to 3 times the government limit
of cyanide in the well water normally used in the products. The
announcement was the latest in a raft of recalls following reports of
contamination. The latest recall covers nearly 2.7 million packages
of sausages and pizza sold in Japan.

Itoham said it had detected large amounts of cyanide in the water at
2 of the 3 wells at its factory in Chiba, near Tokyo. Tests were
still being carried out on sausages to see if they had been tainted.

Cyanide, often used in fertilizers, can seep into ground water, where
small amounts are often found. Itoham spokesman Yoshiro Matsuzaki
said this was the 1st time in its 40 years of operation that the
company had found unhealthy levels of cyanide in its wells.

Itoham, the country’s 2nd-biggest meat processor, based in
Nishinomiya, western Japan, said it believed the products would not
pose any risk to health if consumed. The company said it has not
received any reports of health problems and the recalls are
voluntary. “Please accept our sincere apology,” Itoham said in a
statement. “We will do our utmost to prevent future problems and
ensure product safety.”


Communicated by:
ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall

[Additional news reports at
http://www.pr-inside.com/japanese-sausage-recall-after-cyanide-scare-r880550.htm
and
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-10-26-sausage-recall_N.htm?csp=34
- Rapp.MM

This looks over-cautious on the part of the manufacturer. The amount
of cyanide absorbed by the sausage meat during processing was likely
so small you would have to live on an exclusive diet of sausages for
months before building up a toxic dose. Nevertheless, government
limits on cyanide in water are a prudent measure.

For CDC’s Facts About Cyanide go to
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/Agent/cyanide/basics/facts.asp Mod.JW

The HealthMap/ProMED-mail interactive map of Japan is available at
http://healthmap.org/promed?v=36.1,138.5,5
CopyEd.MJ]
...................................jw/mj/dk


6,098 posted on 10/28/2008 8:08:50 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: All; gardengirl; Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT

For the kids of the family:

Pages to color, after printing:

http://www.crayola.com/free-coloring-pages/

http://www.crayola.com/free-coloring-pages/print/native-american-pendants-coloring-page/

I have not used this product, but it could be fun:

http://www.crayola.com/crafts/detail/pueblo-pottery—craft/

http://www.crayola.com/crafts/detail/native-american-pinch-pots-craft/

1. The Lenape or Delaware people were the Native American inhabitants of the land surrounding what is now called the Delaware River. They were among the very first Native Americans with whom the European settlers came into contact in the 1600s.

2. Although the traditional wear of Lenape men was similar to other tribes (fringed pants and cotton blouses), they also carried an ornate, beaded bag. This bag, called a Bandolier, had a wide, fully beaded strap, which was connected to a beaded bag. These bags are a favorite of collectors because of their beauty.

3. To create your own version of the Lenape Indian Bandolier Bag, begin with a small brown paper lunch bag. Fold over the top fourth of the bag. Cut this folded area into fringes.

4. Cut a strip of brown paper from another bag. Glue the strip to the bottom of the bag. Cut fringes into this strip as well.

5. Cut a long, wide strip of paper from a large, recycled brown grocery bag. Make the strip long so you can wear it over your shoulder. Make the strip about as wide as your hand. Cut three or more finger-shaped fringes into each end of the strip.

6. Use Crayola Markers to create colorful, authentic designs on both the shoulder strap and the bag you created. Use dots in your patterns to represent ornate beadwork created by the Lenape people. Traditional beadwork contained designs based on nature and geometric shapes.

7. When you are finished decorating the strap and the bag, connect them. Place the bag over the strap, above the finger-shaped fringes. Glue the bag in place. Air dry your Lenape Indian Bandolier Bag flat before you wear it.

http://www.crayola.com/crafts/detail/lenape-indian-bandolier-bag-craft/


6,101 posted on 10/28/2008 12:49:28 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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