UFO Landing Strip located on Google Earth?(vanity)

Here’s an O’Hare Airport UFO observer’s posts on ATS . . . FROM:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/eyewitness.html

Referenced in a very good thread on the O’Hare incident by one of the 3 AMIGOS who founded and run ATS, here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread236709/pg1

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Posts By Eyewitness

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1 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 23:52 single post

It’s been a long night and day, so I’m going to hop offline now. I’ll be back tomorrow afternoon and again in the evening to answer any more questions you might have. Have a good night :-)
2 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 23:52 single post

roadgravel, thanks... it was really hard for me to tell exactly where it was in relation to the buildings at the SW corner. My best view of that was actually when I was in traffic, and I had to keep looking back and forth between traffic, road turns and the object. All I could tell for sure was that it was over that southwestern area, and from what I knew of the airport, that put it down the line of that one outer runway and over towards the one terminal/concourse area. Once I parked, the runways, etc., over that way weren’t visible to me, but the object was still high enough to be visible... in fact, it seemed a little “fatter” to me there, which I took to indicate that it was either doing a fat wobble, which I couldn’t outright see although that would account for the almost pearly-soft or “fuzzy” effect, or because of its angle I was now able to see a bit more of its underside and less of its top.
3 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 22:14 single post

roadgravel, thank you so much... the map you posted for me, and oriented with north up, no less, is so easy to read compared to the other one. Muchly appreciated.
4 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 22:24 single post

roadgravel, it was probably fairly exactly where the arrow ends... it was hard for me to get that much perspective, since the difference between the red dot and where the red arrow ends, over the terminal itself, was all pretty much the same at my distance and in my line of sight. My best guess would be that it was closer to being over the terminal or concourse building (where the arrow ends) than over the runway itself.

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5 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 22:00 single post

roadgravel, thanks and perfect... clearly I need a decent graphics program if I’m going to continue being in the right place at the right time.

If you look at the main terminal, which is in the upper middle of this view (it looks sort of like a stylized stick man holding up something like a sickle-like weapon... follow me on this, because I’m truly doing the best I can here), then follow a line just east (right) from the upraised, right-pointing “blade” of the upraised “sickle,” the area where I was, the terminal five area, is the somewhat black-outlined ovalish area. For a bit the object was behind me, as I drove into the terminal five area. We initially parked as far SW as we could, as that provided the best visibiility.

[edit on 27-1-2007 by Eyewitness]
6 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 22:49 single post

Ace_SD, yes, it was slightly angled, not exactly parallel to the ground... leaned a bit to the left, from my perspective.
7 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 21:20 single post

roadgravel, I think I already may have goofed up SE for SW for the direction of the object... it was close to if not over the terminal area that’s at the end of the runways that go from the SW edge of the airport and angle up somewhat northeasterly. Part of my problem is that the map I used had N at an angle on the righthand side, and I can’t turn my monitor sideways, and it’s frustrating the heck out of me. From where I was as I came into the airport area (I was coming from the east), the object was almost directly ahead of me -— sort of at an 11:30 position, if you know what I mean. At that point I knew it was in the vicinity of that southerly runway, probably up towards the end of it... in other words, up near the terminal that sits at the end of that runway (I think I mistakenly said “SE” of when it’s really SW of the runway). The map should do the trick -— I did email it to the friend who was with me that day, to make sure we both agreed on our locations, so the marks on the map are as accurate for us both as possible.
8 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 21:58 single post

From Tea: How the he** did you join today and manage to accumulate 6000+ points?

I think people keep giving them to me because I came here only to provide eyewitness information on the O’Hare UFO case, so I guess I’m getting them for 1) “coming out,” 2) being highly credible, and 3) willingly sitting here answering questions.

Funny thing is, I have NO IDEA what the he** one does with points, lol.
9 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 21:17 single post

Skyway and roadgravel, I couldn’t really see the runways wwhere I was, because there was a low building between them and us, but knowing the airport somewhat I actually figured it was up at the far end of the main runways near the terminal and concourses there, which would indeed put it in or quite close to the position jritzmann has located it on a satmap of O’Hare. He didn’t show me that map until after I had already given him all my information as to personal identity and sighting particulars. The map jritzmann has shows the location better than I can tell you... but I’d say basically that it was slightly to the SE of the southernmost runways... those runways angle up in a northwesterly direction, somewhat up towards where I was watching... it did angle in the direction the runway goes, but only slightly off of vertical.

I am a bit directionally challenged, and am trying to remember compass directions based on jritzmann’s map, so I actually might confuse things compasswise from time to time, but I indicated my positions on the map that I sent to jritzmann, so that should help clear things up a fair bit. It would all have been much much easier if the maps had had “north” facing up, lol.
10 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 20:28 single post

Please note -— I haven’t posted often enough here to respond to U2Us except to mods, so please pardon me for not responding... but thank you very much for your personal words. (This counts towards my 20-posts-to-be-allowed-to-reply-to-U2Us, so soon, soon... lol)
11 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 20:00 single post

Hi again... I sent the lovely, talented and ever so sweet jritzmann my best guestimate of my positions and the UFO’s position, as well as takeoff direction, marked... will try to answer a few questions now.

UM Gazz, I thought they were getting ready to say hello right there and then.

fooffstarr, I thought that photo (the Dulles area cloud hole) was worth mentioning, too... verrrry similar, indeed, except that the ORD one was fairly straight up, and slightly angling towards me and left) -— the Dulles cloud hole seems nearly perpendicular to the ground. But suffice it to say, after what I saw at O’Hare, it wouldn’t exactly shock me to discover that some-one? -thing? was snooping around yet another airport.

I didn’t know about the Aurora, IL, sighting, also on 6 November... will try to look up information on that one, as either we had quite the little nomad on our hands that day, or the skies were a bit “friendlier” than usual.

MrPenny, I thought exactly the same thing, about people not knowing how to download phone photos to their computers, then how to upload from there to here. Most of my friends with cell cams tell me they have no idea as to how to do this. Again, I just encourage anyone who has photos from this incident to release them. Personal anonymity is fine, although I’ve felt completely safe about having my confidentiality maintained by the moderators here. Just please... figure out the way to upload them, or send them to Mr, Hilkovich at the Trib, or to Peter Davenport, or to the talented photo staff here, via the moderators. Please.

mythatsabigprobe, from my perspective and that of a few others who saw this object, we tend to feel more that the mainstream media are making a mole hill out of a mountain... and yours is my favorite nic here so far.

amongus, this isn’t the first UFO I’ve seen, but this was certainly the most detailed and profound one... the others didn’t make me rush out to tell my tale, but this one has brought me around to that. I’m open as to what may be piloting this craft... but that it was a craft I have no doubt whatsoever. And given that the take-off would, given our currently extrapolated technological level, pretty much turn a human’s body to mush. I don’t really think it was piloted by humans.

I did feel a brief, light tingling no more than a second or two before the thing took off and as it passed through the clouds ahead and tp the left of me, but it was such a subtle thing I can’t say with certainty that it was a result of an electrical or EG phenomenon.

My flight crew friend said that they were not informed of the reason for the brief delay, but that someone did ask if they’d “seen anyything unusual.” The crew was not questioned by FAA or airline officials, but again, at that time I doubt if damage control had gone beyond the ramp areas and runways.

I’ll stay around here for a few hours to answer questions, if you have them.
12 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 01:42 single post

Atomic, it “tore off” out of there extremely quickly, and did indeed punch a hole in the clouds. It left at a slight angle, slightly easterly.

JBird, I’ll figure it all out better when I actually have a chance to look at the map for more than a second, but when I was on Mannheim it was in an 11:30 position, as in ahead and slightly to the left of me (basically NNW), and when I was in the parking lot I was facing more WNW... I promise, before I sign in tomorrow and get flooded with questions again, I’ll do a detailed check and try to pin it down exactly.

I’m off to bed now... will be back tomorrow to answer additional questions. And again, thanks for your welcome here.
13 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 01:10 single post

Atomic, by the way, I have a very hard time believing that no one in the tower saw the object as it was... now, granted, air traffic controllers are more screen-bound than naked-eye-oriented, but still, the object was present for at least 13-14 minutes (that’s a very close estimation of how long I watched it, from the first sighting on Mannheim until it took off when I was in the parking lot), and even without a radar return, that’s plenty of time for the tower to have been notified by the pilots who saw it and had radios handy, and perhaps even by other airport workers and/or their supervisors. I’m not holding my breath where tower personnel are concerned, though -— although it would be lovely if one would come forward, even anonymously, if indeed tower personnel did sight it either visually or on radar.
14 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 01:42 single post

Watcher777, I heard no noise that seemed to be coming from the object... nothing other than traffic, plane engines, etc.... there may have been sound to it, but if so, it wasn’t loud, either when it was “parked” or when it took off.

The Coast-to-Coast photo actually looks less like what I saw than the cell phone photo does, but that could be a result of proximity and angle -— as I mentioned before, it did look a bit different depending on the viewing angle, and the C2C photo either was taken a fair bit closer than I was, or the zoom lens was used, showing more detail. In this photo, the little “node” on the bottom looks larger, too -— it was very subtle from where I viewed it, so subtle that I wasn’t sure if there was a slight bulge on the bottom or if I was just imagining that from the motion or shading of it.
15 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 01:38 single post

fooffstarr, I’m typing and talking as fast as I can, lol.

From what I understand, that may well have been the case for the airport and airline employees in the area... but almost the only way the FAA or O’Hare people could find out who was in the other airport areas watching would be to examine their security camera footage and collect license plate numbers, if that would even be possible. I also think that any damage control/”investigation” would have begun with the people working in the runway areas at the main terminal, so by the time anything larger-scale could begin, any casual witnesses would have been long gone... and I’m not sure anyone would have handed over their cameras, etc., anyway, without making a genuine stink about it -— and a genuine stink seems to be the last thing the FAA, United and O’Hare want.
16 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 00:28 single post

Atomic, there were more than fifteen people watching it just in the parking lot where I was... so the corroborating evidence can come from more than just airline employees. There are a lot of people out there who haven’t come forward yet, and just from the amount of photo-taking I saw, there are a number of photos that haven’t yet been released. Some of them were likely taken by people who live overseas... hopefully they’ll be made aware of the media coverage here in the States, and hopefully that media coverage will continue long enough to persuade them to let us all see their photos.
17 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 00:36 single post

fooffstarr, no, no one tried to speak with us, but at that point the event had just happened, and I don’t think anyone had sprung into damage control mode yet. After the sighting, we just moved to a closer parking space, went inside the terminal, collected our friend, and left. As to whether or not I’ll disclose my identity fully in public and decide to raise havoc with the FAA and/or United, I’m really not sure yet... it probably depends on whether more photographic evidence is released, because while I can’t provide photos, I can surely identify likely real ones and probable hoaxes.
18 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 00:55 single post

Fiverz, it’s exactly because I used to be in the news racket that kept me from reporting it to the papers or to television stations -— and it pretty much played out that way locally, with the usual assortment of flakes being interviewed and the story being treated lightly. I have tried to contact the reporter at the Tribune and expect to speak with him soon. If I’d had photos, I would have been more forthcoming about it, and would have sent copies of them to a print reporter, but I frankly expected dozens of photos to hit the papers quite soon after the incident, and when they didn’t that both surprised and silenced me for the time being. I did contact several UFO reporting agencies to see if they’d heard about the sighting and to see if photographs had been released to them, but at that time there were no official reports (there had been several others who had contacted them as I had, but without filing official reports), and no one had sent in any photographs. Again, it wasn’t until the Tribune story came out that I realized that there were, at least, other witnesses coming forward (even though they were anonymous), and I didn’t discover this thread until quite recently... then I spent a number of spare hours reading this to get up to speed and to ascertain if this was where I wanted to go semi-public. I do believe more people will come out with their stories and with photos -— but basically it’s only been a few weeks since the story really broke, and it takes a bit of time for many of us to be willing to risk being associated with the sort of folk they parade in front of the cameras when making light of this sort of thing.
19 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 00:14 single post

apc, the object had an odd visual effect to it... the sort-of-mirrorlike-yet-sort-of-”fuzzyish” quality... but I did think it was rotating rapidly and counter-clockwise. There was a vague visual effect that seemed to indicate a spinning motion and a slight disruption or distortion of the air very close to the object.
20 — Eyewitness posted on January 27, 2007 at 00:07 single post

Hal9000, lol, no, wasn’t in the middle of writing a novel... have been on the phone with several administrators and moderators of this site off and on through the evening, and it’s been a bit chaotic getting back to answer questions. As to my writing style, well, I was a reporter and news anchor once upon a time, so it behooved me to be able to write lucidly and in detail. Basically, though, much of this is difficult to explain or define, especially when it comes down to how it made me feel. It made me feel some things I’ve never felt before, and it’s hard to come up with words for those feelings. But I’m doing my best to answer the questions put to me, and the delays have only been due to several prolonged conversations with several people who operate this forum... I’ve given them my name and phone number, and I think they’re finding me a highly credible witness.

Fiverz, I couldn’t see the runways from where I was, after I turned off Mannheim and into the parking lot -— at that point, the runways were on the other side of the terminal buildings from me.

As to why more witnesses haven’t come forward to discuss this sighting, in part it’s because it didn’t even make the news here for a month and a half. We were surely talking about it on at least one local forum (where purduejake first mentioned it on 7 November, the day after the sighting). Once we learned from the Tribune article about the forum where purduejake (an airline employee who saw the object) posted the sighting on 7 November, the day after the sighting... up till then, though, I had no idea that anyone had posted the information anywhere, so I just discussed it with friends, which is what I assume other witnesses were doing, too. Since I didn’t have photos, I wasn’t really sure what I could do... wasn’t sure that simply telling what I saw would be of much use. It was mostly at the insistence of friends that I decided to write this forum... and this is the only thread on this forum I’ve visited, so no, Hal, I don’t know anything about sleeper’s thread... and that should be easy enough for the moderators to confirm.

Fiverz, granted, I was paying more attention to the sky than to the parking lot, but there were easily several dozen people watching it at various points. I watched it in the parking lot for about ten minutes, and pointed it out to a few people, who stood with us and watched until the object left. I did see a number of people taking photos, both with cell phones and with digital cameras, of the object, and a large part of my purpose in talking about this is to help persuade them to release their photos.

I first saw the object when we were just north of the intersection of Irving Park and Mannheim, for less than a minute. After we reached the parking lot, we watched for approximately ten minutes, until it tore off out of there.

Again, I’ll do my best to answer every question... and if I happen to miss one, remind me again... and if I don’t know the answer, I’ll tell you that, too.
21 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 23:51 single post

Majic, thank you and all the others for welcoming me... must confess, I wasn’t at all sure what my reception here would be like.

Jbird, I found ATS via another website I visit, which mentioned ATS as pretty much O’Hare UFO Central... so I linked, and I read... and read... and read... lol. I’d pretty much already decided (especially after being heavily persuaded by friends) to open up a bit about the sighting, and while there are a few, well, umm, less mature amongst the posters here, by far most of you are obviously sincere and searching for answers. We’ve had more than enough secrecy about such things over the years.
22 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 22:25 single post

funky monk, the photo that looks most accurate to me is actually the cell phone one... that looks pretty much like my view of it from Mannheim. The other photo that I think you may be talking about, the one that purportedly shows it very low and over a runway, looks much too disklike to me... from the side, it looked more elliptical than that.

I didn’t feel anything unusual until around the time it left, and it was such a quick sensation that I wasn’t quite sure what to make of it... sort of a skin-tingle, but truly so light that it easily could have been fear rather than a genuine physical effect... although I don’t tend to be especially fearful by nature, and am generally quite level even in bizarre circumstances.
23 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 22:24 single post

JBird, yes, sorry, less than the usual number of planes during the last minutes of the sighting.

In the parking lot, when first seeing it people made comments, but we were mostly all rather dumbstruck after the first few moments of watching, because for a number of us it wasn’t a superquick glimpse, it was an ongoing and static sighting, with a realness to it that basically just shortcircuited your speech center. After it swept up and off, no one near me even said anything like “What was that??” It was difficult to find words. My friend and I reparked (I’d parked a bit far from the terminal entrance to continue watching the object) and each recounted to the other exactly what we’d just seen... I think it must have been sort of our reality test. We’ve discussed it every single day since then. My friend on the incoming plane said he would nose about a bit to find out more if possible, but he’s not a United pilot, nor is he based in Chicago, so I’m not sure how much he’ll reasonably be able to learn.
24 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 21:59 single post

Skyway, it was when I was heading north on Mannheim that I got the best sidelong look at it, and it did look quite a bit like (I so hate to type this, lol) the ostensible cell phone photo -— evenly ovoid, overall lighter gray, a bit too distant to make out any features, if indeed features there were. From the parking lot, though, I was closer, but at a more underneath vantage point than a sideview one... from there, since I could still see it somewhat from the side but could see the bottom better, and it looked a little more disklike from the bottom, but there was enough sideview to see that it was a bit “higher” than the stereotypical flying disk... a little thicker than a Frisbee proportionately, in other words, and with much smoother curves. I saw no features whatsoever -— as I said before, there was something about the texture that halfway perplexed me, because while it seemed by its shading almost reflective, it didn’t really seem to have a mirrorlike surface. Words really do escape me at somee points regarding this, and I’m fairly well a walking dictionary, so that’s noteworthy.

As to how I felt when I saw it -— initially on the road I was curious and a bit excited by it, because it was fairly apparent that it was something quite different. When I watched it from the parking lot, there was simply no doubt in me that I was seeing, under practically ideal circumstances, a craft that was under control, that was capable of moving in ways that would, with normal (known) technology, cause a human body quite a bit of discomfort, if not brroken bones, and that it was, in fact, extraterrestrial in origin. I really thought it was going to land, and the friend who had rridden to the airport with mee said at one point “This will change everything.” Emotionally, part of me wanted it to come down fifty feet from me, and another part of me wanted to run and hide. Not very scientific-minded of me, granted, but it had that effect.
25 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 21:29 single post

Jbird, when I told the friend I was picking up what I’d seen, he told me that that made sense, given that he’d been asked by the tower if he had “observed anything unusual” while holding. I’m admittedly surmising that the hold was put on because of the UFO, but there was a sudden and marked difference in the number of planes coming in for perhaps the last ten minutes of the sighting duration (while I was in the parking lot). I frequently meet my friend’s flights, and am very accustomed to the usual traffic at ORD at that time of day.

I did see it leave. It didn’t go quite straight up, and from my angle I couldn’t see blue sky at the top of the hole... but it surely did leave a hole, and it went from no movement to incredible speed in a split second... no noticeable acceleration, just gone. And no sonic boom. If I’ve got my own position in the parking lot adequately judged, it did angle up in an eastwardly direction. I’m in the process now of trying to locate it exactly, which I should be able to do, having seen it from two locations.

Skyway, you know, I’m indeed tentative on my ID of 00000000’s photo... on the one hand, I can see where it would appear that way at a different angle, and I can even justify it not being centered (from my understanding, the copilot or pilot who took that shot opened his side window and stuck his cell phone out, and those windows aren’t very conducive to much more than a quick shot at an angle). But the same object did look darker when I was more beneath it than it did when I was viewing it at a more sidelong angle from Mannheim. What I do know for sure is that a number of people in the parking lot photographed the object, and I encourage them to release their photos.
26 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 20:25 single post

fooffstarr... yes, I imagine I will get a bit of hassle about posting, and it’s taken me a few days of reading the full thread (and a devil of a lot of peer pressure from the friend who was with me and also saw it) to step over the edge of obscurity, lol. But this, to me, is a terribly important sighting, in part because of the mainstream media coverage. And as for how it impressed me -— I bought an 8-megapixel digital camera the very next day, and I don’t leave home without it. That’s a heck of a chunk of change to spend over a “weather phenomenon.”

roadgravel, I haven’t taken the time to try to make sense of where I was versus where the main terminals and concourses were, but I could indeed see it from part of the international terminal lot... if someone wants to do up a tighter map area that shows Mannheim and the international terminal and parking area, I can pretty well determine from that exactly where it was when I saw it from there. I watched it for a number of minutes from the parking lot, as did more than a few other people, although it did generally need to be pointed out, as most people walk around with their heads sort of down, or eyes focused on their destination. By the time it took off, there were six other people standing there with me watching it, plus others at other spots in the parking lot.
27 — Eyewitness posted on January 26, 2007 at 19:27 single post

Well, into the fray I go...

I saw the ORD UFO. I first sighted it while at the intersection of Irving Park Rd. and Mannheim Blvd., and again for just a bit when I got to the parking lot of the international terminal. I was picking up a friend, an American Airline cockpit officer who was flying in from Charles deGaulle International Airport. His plane, scheduled for a 4:55p arrival time, was delayed because of the object.

The ostensible cell phone photo could have been the object, in that the UFO’s perceptible coloration did alter somewhat depending on the viewer’s angle. When I saw it from Mannheim, it appeared much paler, but as I moved closer to underneath it it darkened... my impression is that it was highly reflective, with the upper part mirroring the lighter sky and the underneath mirroring the darker areas (as well as being naturally shaded). “Mirroring” is actually an awkward word, as the “texture” of the craft didn’t seem highly polished, but it’s the only word I can think of that somewhat applies. I do know that there are other photos, as I saw a fair number of people, even several on Mannheim, take photos with cell phones or digital cameras.

It was definitely an object, not a lenticular cloud or any other weather phenomenon. At its closest, it was no more than a quarter of a mile from me, and I saw it fly off. It was very clearly a controlled craft of some sort. There were no lights in use on it at that time.

roadgravel, the winds were light that day... too light to require any directional TO or landing alterations.

nextguyinline, purduejake actually posted the sighting information, as an eyewitness, the day after the sighting on a local democratic forum... months before the Trib heard of it.

amongus, the weather that day would match the photo, and there were still many green leaves around... my leaves in NW Indiana, 40 miles from O’Hare, didn’t fall until after the snow in late November. In fact, the weather had been ridiculously warm up till then.

I’m willing to talk with the moderators of this forum, either online or by phone. I’m not willing to give my name and information in an open forum, but I’ll be glad to answer questions. For the record, I’m a 52 year-old woman, former radio news anchor and reporter with an ABC affiliate, former chef and restaurant owner, with many hours in the air and experience with many types of aircraft. This was nothing conventional, and I frankly doubt whether it was something manmade.

Again, to the moderators -— please email me if you wish more information... this truly was an amazing sighting, given the proximity and the location, and I hope the truth emerges. I do encourage all with photos of the craft to release them -— I think there are far more credible photos out there than this one.

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