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The Brady Punch (Don Shula Gives Patriots Asterisk)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 1-13-08 | Rick Morrissey

Posted on 01/14/2008 9:26:18 PM PST by BigJohn44

Don Shula, the coach of that Miami team, wants an asterisk put in the NFL record book if the Pats do go undefeated.

"The Spygate thing has diminished what they've accomplished," he said earlier this season. "You would hate to have that attached to your accomplishments. They've got it."

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: nepatriots; nfl; patfanscheat; patfansdeny; patfanslie
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“...nor was it the correct season in question.”

Oh no? Using the same absurd logic used by the Belichick/Pats haters, if they cheated in ‘69, they most certainly continued to cheat.


81 posted on 01/15/2008 7:08:57 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I wonder if the Dolphins cheated to get Morrall from the Colts? :-)


82 posted on 01/15/2008 7:10:01 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Mr. Mojo

I hope so. I even hope so for the Pats’ sake. Better they don’t have to deal with the “cheating” albatross next to the SB win; bad enough they already will deal with it next to their perfect season.


83 posted on 01/15/2008 7:10:41 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: BigJohn44

Go Pats !!

You however... can “go” ____ your****....

= )


84 posted on 01/15/2008 7:11:28 AM PST by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: ICE-FLYER

“There was NO WAY to exploit the signals in real time.”

Then why bother doing this?


85 posted on 01/15/2008 7:13:53 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: gate2wire

Well that’s true.

But again, you’re talking about some indirect “cheat”. Signing a guy is a single point in time thing. Filming things to directly get an edge tends to be the on-going thing.


86 posted on 01/15/2008 7:17:04 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: gate2wire

BTW: GO **REAL** COLTS!


87 posted on 01/15/2008 7:18:02 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

No, I’m comparing rule violations by the Dolphins and the Pats.
Both were guilty of RULE VIOLATIONS, not cheating.
Even Goodell admitted that the Pats did not gain any edge against the competition.


88 posted on 01/15/2008 7:20:47 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes, I still like the Colts. Can’t blame them for what the demon irsay did. I’m pretty sure you and I have discussed this before. :-)


89 posted on 01/15/2008 7:22:33 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I was pretty young when the Dolphins stole Shula.
Funny how things seemed so important back then.


90 posted on 01/15/2008 7:25:30 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Then why bother doing this?

Obviously they are wrong and cheaters so you tell us. What did it gain them when they are already the best? Are you really going to assert that they were only good because of it?

91 posted on 01/15/2008 7:25:59 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: BigJohn44

Can anyone cite the actual NFL rule on cameras and where specifically they are allowed ?

As I understand it, cameras are not allowed on the field but ARE allowed elsewhere in the stadium, and if this is true and most teams have some cameras in the stadium, aren’t they all using this system to some degree ??


92 posted on 01/15/2008 7:27:07 AM PST by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Veeram

NFL rules state “no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game.” They also say all video for coaching purposes must be shot from locations “enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3018338


93 posted on 01/15/2008 7:31:09 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: BigJohn44

I think the Patriots record in previous seasons would be stained more than in this season. The Patriots were caught in game one against the hapless Jets and that game’s outcome was really not anyway affected (as the rest of the Jets’ season indicated.) I don’t think there’s an asterisk or a black mark on Belichick. Doubtless, he was not the only coach doing illegal spying, simply the only one to get caught. If the Pats manage to go 19-0, I’d simply applaud the effort. Personally, I’m rooting the NY Giants to get one more crack at them, but that’s doubtless wishful thinking on my part. And it’s sour grapes on Shula’s part. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.


94 posted on 01/15/2008 7:32:03 AM PST by sono (I'm an optimistic realist. I look at the glass half full and ask: "Are you're gonna drink that?")
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To: BigJohn44
I hope they do get an asterisk, just to highlight what a great season they had and what a dominating team they were.

This is about your fifth post on this topic since the weekend. You should understand that hate and envy are self-destructive emotions. For your own health and well-being, please purge yourself of these self-destructive emotions. You should not let the fortunes of a football team control your life like this.

95 posted on 01/15/2008 7:47:33 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 22 days away from outliving Nicolette Larson)
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To: dfwgator
Could the Pats have gone unbeaten without Tom Brady? I donÂ’t think so.

Agreed. So one Brady is greater than both those guys.
96 posted on 01/15/2008 7:55:14 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: SamAdams76

“I hope they do get an asterisk, just to highlight what a great season they had and what a dominating team they were.”

Ha, I like it.
Just wondering...when the Pats were preparing for the Ravens game, do you think they questioned Adalius Thomas about the Ravens’ signals or, gasp, would that be cheating?


97 posted on 01/15/2008 7:56:00 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: BigJohn44

imho, isn’t the whole game tainted because there is probably a lot of steroid and human growth hormone and other substance abuse use in football? I think so, but one gets by it and watches it anyway.


98 posted on 01/15/2008 8:01:55 AM PST by RGPII
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To: carumba
Agreed. So one Brady is greater than both those guys.

Nay Carumba.

99 posted on 01/15/2008 8:18:36 AM PST by BigJohn44
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To: shineon
No. they're amazing. They took the penalty and moved on with an undefeated season. It was the stiffest fine in NFL history though.

All I said was that in hindsight, it would have been better if it hadn't been marred by Belichick's underhanded unsportsmanlike choices.

100 posted on 01/15/2008 8:21:16 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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