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To: nature

“Come on now, we aren’t talking date rape in this case.

maybe we are....LB says he jumped into her bed the first night she got back after she’d been having an affair for 6 months with another guy!! (if LB was a woman, there would be a very specific adjective for tht type of behavior) A guy she liked so much, that she felt part of his family who welcomed her. - LB says he got her pregnant - he was certain - he knew when he touched her skin - all that sob story stuff - but, she had a miscarriage of GBen’s baby,(falling off a ladder) but she was still somehow pregnant from NYE?

“He was her boyfriend”

poster speculation. We don’t know that. was he? or was he just a boody-call (to put it politely) or a stalker? seems to me, that Anna thought GBen was her boyfriend for the prior 6 months, along with a bodyguard or two, and planned to have GBen’s kid, not larrys...also seems to me that by NYE 05 anna was backstage with a magician. So from, what, Sep 04 to Dec 31 04 - then Feb to maybe May/June (was with magician for most of Jan) (didn’t lb claim he got an apt in Feb 04?) - then she moves on? and he’s still sniffing around and runs right over the same day she returns? nasty!

“Nothing wrong with champion patients rights”

I think there’s a lot wrong with taking a stance that any man who knocks up a single woman, is, from that moment ‘in charge’ of that woman’s life....women have fought for over 100 years for control of their own destinies and bodies. If Anna had aborted, there wasn’t a dam thing LB could have done about it. Her decision, not his.

If your daughter breaks up with her boyfriend, and finds out she’s pregnant, and doesn’t want anything to do with said dumped boyfriend, does that boyfriend have the RIGHT to demand information from her doctor? or demand to go to all doctor appointments? or demand to move into her apartment and dictate what she eats or drinks? sorry, the answer is no - not in my world.

“I would defend her right to have him there if that is what she wanted. She could have refused .. “

seems to me, from LB’s testimony, that she did refuse - they argued several times in the hospital, at least once resulting in her throwing him out for him to say, she called and said where did you go? She wrote two emails to to separate people saying he didn’t ‘care’ and was not a nice person and treated her badly. She continued to refuse him, by moving to the bahamas!

” She got as good as she gave. “

i think that’s a very cruel thing to say

she and her son died, because she refused to allow LB into her life and imo was trying to break ties with HKS? that’s ‘good as she gave’?????


3,339 posted on 11/16/2007 3:43:22 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

No one said ‘take charge of a woman’.

The discussion was the ULTRASOUND. You can read back if you lost track. How you jump to an abortion is silly. Following along... LB attending the ultrasound, period. I repeat, he could not have done this without her approval. Her decision! Her right! Yes, that is championing the rights for Anna to choose! To allow whoever she wants there and that sets back absolutely nothing 100 years. Sometimes people get too emotional and their arguments get way off course to the ridiculous.

anna’s men .. what can I say. I hate to be the one to break the surprise to you but... Anna slept with just about anyone and sometimes more than one! Hard to track a back stage oral favor from a back room beds with her. You are talking about the woman who had orgies! “Did women” so her boyfriend could watch while he pleasured himself! (her own admission).
Going from one man a night to the only one the next night is almost celibate for anna!

No evidence it was Ben’s baby she miscarried. The story is it was LB’s baby. With so many liars, take your pick. The buddies aren’t outing each others tales at the moment. The Ladder story came from LB who said it was HKS’s explanation. lol Nuff said there. We know Anna was a chronic liar. Was she ever really pregnant that time would be more the question imo.

Getting kicked out of the hospital you turn into refusing him at the ultrasound? Huh? Prove to me the ultrasound was after she kicked him out of the hospital, and that with her kicking and screaming objections, the hospital went against FEDERAL patient rights laws and allowed him to attend an ultrasound.

One thing LB didn’t hide was that the relationship, whatever is was, was indeed often volatile. Babybook prints to IV quarrels. Sounds pretty much like a druggie to me. If he left and was gone for days, that doesn’t sound like he forced his way into a hospital to me. And I don’t see the hospital violating Federal Laws for the likes of a little worm like LB.

“she gave as good as she got” .. Hef said it, take it up with him. I don’t find Hef a cruel person. I think he was giving his own honest opinions.


3,378 posted on 11/16/2007 3:32:45 PM PST by nature
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