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To: sodpoodle
That is the thing sod... Perper had the RX bottles and he is the one that supplied the dates! He is the one that tries to 'sell' the Cipro. He is the one with the job and the responsibility. He is the one that was so grossly negligent he states she took a bath and Cipro Monday night, went to bed by ten. But then he produces a list showing the Cipro wasn't scripted until Tuesday! How could Perper be confused, he is the one that made it all up. lol Not confusing to me to know that if the labs can't find it, tell you it isn't there in this day and age of easy identification .. then it isn't there. And I don't have a medical degree, Perper does. He was so fixated (why?) on forcing illness that when the CH toxicology came back, him and his team of 'experts' had to totally revamp their push for infection. I don't know if you ever read the adendum reports but they are interesting. He had initial tox by 2/9/07 He KNEW by then all about the benzodiazepines and still remained hell bent to look the other way for infections that weren't there. Perper made up his mind BEFORE he even had tox reports! What ethical ME does that? She could have been poisoined for all he knew! Yet he sets his mind, digs in his heals with lies. Lies HE chose to stand by no matter what. • Initial assumptions (three choices):  Natural death  Drug/medication related death  Combination of natural and drug related death Bayerl I see no hstopathologic evidence to suggest a specific etiology. I see no evidence underlying constitutional immune dysfunction. Dickinson Professor of Medicine and Chief, Infectious Diseases UofMiami Miller School of Medicine Gorensek Chaiman, Dept of Infectious Disease Cleveland Clinic Florida BOTH signed! "Conclusion Although we initially were of the opinion that disseminated bacterial infection originating in the buttock abscess and the norovirus infection were major contributors to her death, with the finding of toxic levels of chloral hyrate, we would relegate the infecitons to contributing role, but not the main cause. HOW MUCH HER INFECTIONS CONTRIBUTED TO HER DEMISE IS UNCLEAR AND CANNOT BE DEFINED. A drug overdose appears to fit the overall clinical history nd postmortem findings. CAPS are my own screams on this insanity ;| Now, these two don't even HAVE all the details by their own letter!!!! They had a damn "conference call" on Feb 23 and said oh, okay we will back you up is how I read it. "The relevant details as we understand them at the time of our conference on February 23, 2007. " They run the same story Perper must have told them, plane, butt pain etc. But get these "experts"!!!!??? "received Tamiflu and ciprofloxin by mouth [dosage and number of doses given unknown] "She remained in bed and spend much of the February 8th sleeping" "No medical details of her course this day is available, but late in the day she was found by a friend to be unrsponsive and when medical assitance arrived she expired. " WTH!!! Februrary 8th is the morning she DIED these idiots!! They know NOTHING about her medical, NOTHING about her meds but they have an expert opinion?!!!!! Then they go on to some moronic slippery 'maybe' twists and turns but now that the tox shows DEADLY levels of CH .. she must have died from drugs with the infections they can't find as contributiors. BULL TWEETY. Funny they mention the Norfolk virus then FORGET to acknowledge it was shot down by CDC tests! Perper just happens to be on Staff at Miller School, what a surprise huh?! http://www.med.miami.edu/med/infectiousdiseases/chief.asp Margaret Gorensek doesn't even show up on the physicians list at the Cleveland Clinic she lists she is "Chairman" at! http://sck.clevelandclinic.org/florida/physicians/ AHHA, check out margaret .. Medical association ties. http://www.bcma.com/directory.asp Perper's other 'expert' is a pal from his Pennsylvania days! The only outside source I can see is CDC and we know they didn't find anything in his fabricated BS!
1,206 posted on 10/21/2007 9:27:01 AM PDT by nature
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To: nature
I cannot understand why Perper's autopsy has not been challenged. His appearance on Geraldo, IIRC, should have raised more red flags.

Just a trivial point, but on the book Perper pushes on Nancy Grace, his co-author is Dr. Michael Weston, MD, President of Broward County Medical Ass. In academic articles, not infrequently an author would add a string of co-authors as a favor for them who then would reciprocate, thus each building up their credentials. Or it might be a special favor. Same for at least a few books involving co-authors.

Dr. Weston might be a legitimate co-author. Maybe I searched in wrong places but I could not even find where Weston received his degree. His specialty reportedly is emergency medicine and has also served a secretary of the BCMA.

1,222 posted on 10/21/2007 10:55:45 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: nature

Nature, are you suggesting that when he spoke with Dr. KE, something green passed between them? I realize you haven’t drawn that conclusion, but Dr. Perper looked so far the other way that he ended up with his neck in traction.

While rereading the autopsy report this morning, something else stood out. The chloral hydrate bottle was found next to her bed with some of its contents missing. But Howard’s preferred method of giving her meds is through a straw. I don’t know, but it strikes me that Howard would never just leave a bottle around. It strikes me as staged for the purpose of blaming Anna for swigging too much of it. Fuzzy detail needs clarifying.


1,226 posted on 10/21/2007 11:17:57 AM PDT by SundayGardener
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To: nature

Damn!

He so clearly used KE’s dates and lies to establish the end result.

He then just matched findings to those lies and discounted everything else, or used convoluted nonsense to obfuscate. If it didn’t fit he made up sh*t.

You should be a witness!!!!


1,233 posted on 10/21/2007 11:27:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Common people have common sense.......... and there are so many of them.)
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