Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima
Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4
wait a minute! isn’t Taz ‘bahamian’??????? I wonder how many times she called the Horizons when Moe was there? I’d like to sit her down and ask her some real questions...Moe too!
plum
where is this from?
was that tony potts or mark steines? i get the two of them mixed up
rofl - Lincoln Bain doesn’t have a father - he is the Son of God hehe
on one of Bain’s tapes with the nannies, I coulda swore I heard hm say he was a former cop? (i really Don’t want to go sit thru those tapes again lol) if he was, how did he make ‘a million by 29’ as he said on a rita-sting tape? how much do they pay cops in the Bahamas anyway?
It was Potts on the Kentucy homecoming scoop
Zowee. Access Hollywood is on now - I’m missing the 2nd of my nightly Andy Griffith double-header for this, lol. Oh, it’s OK - it’s Opie and his friends on a campout - I’ve seen it. (I’ve seen ALL of them at least once.)
Anyway, at the top of show they had a clip of Virgie and then an array of pix of Anna as a little girl, then there was a male narrator voiceover saying Anna didn’t care if it was men or women, she liked sex. Then they were showing some sexier photos of older Anna.
That’s just the intro - I’ll add whatever the meat of it is when they get around to it. I *assume* this is yesterday’s show, so probably already reported somewhere - but, it’s new to me.
“Anna’s Unknown Past” and “Her Rapist Father” ...
Coming up later. Oh, lovely.
yes, state warrants, however, the DEA was also very prominent
you know the drill - the state issues the warrants and gets the brownie points, and the DEA gets what they’re looking for - reasons for federal warrants
video of DEA agents:
search warrants executed (Video)
http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=166534
Note tape at 58seconds to 52 seconds left of tape -armed DEA agents -
IMO anytime the DEA is involved, imo, they take the lead - they have the targets under surveillance, quietly on-scene until the everyone else arrives and then go in together. imo Weren’t all locations hit about the same time? I wouldn’t even be surprised if there was someone on that plane from NY just a few seats back from HK, you know? moo Moo Moo
this investigation is a ‘international’ [read: federal] multi-agency investigation, not just a state investigation. ...the DEA tends to ruin one’s day permanently - Feds don’t play - drugs are only one part of this...other angles are moneylaundering and tax evasion IMO
Clip of Virgie: “For a mother to see her daughter in a G-string ...” (she’s half-laughing and half-grimacing while an old pic of Anna in a skimpy oufit is on-screen)
Here’s Moe - “Baby Girl, gotta come back ...” (preview of his narrative on “Final 24”)
Back to Anna’s Early Years, her rapist dad, her insatiable sexual appetite ...
VA: She had many more good years to go. The baby.
Aahh, old old pix. VA and Don Hogan, with voiceover by Potts about this guy being a rapist. Virgie - I wasn’t married to him very long, little over a year before divorced. Old pix of their house, family. “Anna left home.” Pic of Jim’s Krispy Fried Chicken in Mexia.
More VA talking for narrative - Anna spent $14,000 for the 42DD breasts. VA: they were huge - 3x her normal size - she had so many problems with them.
Then Eric Redding is narrating more of the early years - the Guess? Jeans years - first year with Guess she made $22 million. All she did was party, party, drugs, sex. Then his comment about ANS not caring if men or women, just wanted sex.
I believe these are all clips from “Final 24” - the show that will be on tomorrow night on A&E’s Biography.
“Brand new” interview with Moe *tomorrow* on AH. Then Tony Potts will tackle the question of whether HKS and LB had an affair.
for the more fashion conscious of y’all, is this the “ashie” sweater peeking out of the top of ANS’s coat? or is it just a scarf?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/caribbean/sfl-1012annanicole,0,4229154.story?track=rss
KE and Kapoor live in Los Angeles County, but I did see that Orange County was also involved. I know KE lived down there with Bahou and still had an office in Anaheim and maybe another OC location, not positive, will check notes later - but I also think maybe Kapoor might live in the OC now. Again, will have to check.
Have no idea where their storage units are and not sure about their “billing locations,” except that I “called that” on KE’s Beverly Hills mailing address - it’s just a mail drop and is used by a lot of celebs and movie stars.
I still think HKS flipped on KE to take the heat off of himself - in his arrogance, thinking his “good guy” act that has gotten him brownie points in court so far will continue to work.
I don’t think it will.
AMEN! If Virgie knew, how all of you care so much, do so much and devote so much of your time to doing the 'right thing' and finding the truth, I'm sure it couldn't help but make her feel a little less heavy-hearted at night :)
thanks, Sun :) I really laugh at some of her art. Her captions of DL at the party, had me rolling!! :) That jerk Bain is violating US copyright laws lol - she should sue the pants off him ! HA! :)
The real confusing thing is that Rita put in her book that Tasma is Bahamian - but according to the records I saw, she claimed to have been born in New Jersey.
Before we knew anything about her, I brought up the fact that I’d found her maiden name was Rolle and there are lots of people by that surname in Nassau. One sang in the choir at the funeral church and one was interviewed by the newspaper - but Tas never said anything publicly about being Bahamian and never indicated that she had been in Nassau or any of the Islands any of the time that Moe was.
Then I found some other docs that led me to believe Rolle could have been a previous married name for her - except that’s *supposed* to be the maiden name on the marriage licenses I saw.
Then someone on another forum alluded to Moe being Bahamian and we know he’s not - born in Wash DC, college in Boston. And, he was only her bodyguard on trips to things like Hard Rock or Derby or Vegas.
wow! Thanks plum, I hadn’t see that before.
International, DEA jackets, Go Jerry Brown!
I don’t care if he is rearing up to run for any political office as long as he gets the job done here. Everything has a plus and this is ours for now.
John Coale, Ambulance Chaser
Scientology
Subject: John Coale, Ambulance Chaser
Article about Scios Greta van Susteren, her husband John Coale, and employee Loretta Miscavige (DM’s recently deceased mother)and their “ambulance-chasing” law firm:
http://www.alamanceind.com/newfol~2/nation_7.html
John Coale - a lawyer heavily involved in the negotiations that produced the cigarette settlement and now wants to sue the gun industry - is another lawyer with a very troubled “past” and a personal life that Coale himself admits he tries to keep as unpublicized as possible.
As of April 1996, Coale, his wife Greta Van Susteren - who is also his partner in a law firm, and the law firm were all the subject of serious bar disciplinary proceedings in West Virginia, whose state bar’s discipline board was seeking to suspend their right to practice law in West Virginia for a year as a result of soliciting prospective clients in ways prohibited by bar rules, generally referred to by the public as “ambulance-chasing”; in Coale’s case, the term seems particularly appropriate because one of the incidents that landed him in trouble was his law firm’s employee allegedly trying to chat up a severely-burned man in an intensive-care unit. Such phone or in-person solicitation of prospective clients is so likely to lead to suspension of a lawyer’s law license that it very rarely happens.
As the April 24, 1996 issue of “People Daily” (a web-site offshoot of “People” magazine) described their situation:
“The firm headed by Susteren, her husband John Coale (who recently handled Lisa Marie Presley’s divorce from Michael Jackson) and their former law partner Phillip Allen illegally contacted families of West Virginians injured in accidents between 1990 and 1993, the state’s Lawyer Disciplinary Board contends. In one incident, the Charleston Daily Mail reported, a firm employee, over the protests of the accident victim’s wife, tried to enter a hospital intensive care unit to talk to a man who suffered burns over 60 percent of his body. “We don’t do these things in West Virginia,” state bar lawyer Sherri Goodman told the paper.
” By the end of 1996, the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia had ruled that Coale and his wife were both guilty of professional misconduct in such solicitations, stating:
“Accordingly, we find that respondents Allen, Coale, and Van Susteren engaged in professional misconduct by inducing others to initiate the improper telephone solicitations which we found violative of Rules 7.3(a) and 7.3(b)(1) of the Rules of Professional Conduct.”
Coale’s “personal life” is also “unconventional”; he and his wife are both prominent in the Church of Scientology, which the public generally considers a cult. As Scientologists, Coale and his wife are very active in a “religion” that believes - as described by the Dec. 13, 1998 St. Petersburg Times: “And what about the fact they belong to a religion that teaches of Xenu, evil head of the Galactic Confederation? Who flew people to Teegeeack (Earth) 75-million years ago in space ships, chained them to volcanos and blew them up with hydrogen bombs, releasing exploded “thetans” that are now the source of most human suffering?” As the St. Petersburg Times quoted Coale in that article:
“I did a lot of drugs back in college,” he explained.
“Into the ‘80s, I didn’t do a lot of them, but I felt that I wanted to handle this problem, and Scientology handled it.” (Coale is now 52; he would have been in his mid-thirties at the start of the 80s - not a kid in college.)
Coale and his wife are major donors to the Church of Scientology and employ the mother of the current Scientology leader at their law firm. Both Coale and his wife have attained the uppermost ranks possible for Scientologists - and are hardly casual members. Both Coale and his wife are very well connected with the Clintons and he is a big donor to Democratic causes - but he admits that he has to avoid his Washington friends hearing about their involvement with Scientology.
It is time to tell the truth.
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/john-coale-ambulance-chaser.htm
Bain is a fairly prominent name down there - which I’ve run across a number of times in backgrounding all this.
So, I tried to do some cursory sleuthing, just to see if he’s from one of the old families and made his $million$ by having a relative die. Never did find anything that said, but I got sick of it hurting my hand, so quit. He’s not worth it!
There was a former Prime Minister of The Bahamas and a cabinet member under Pindling, a PLP MP who was an MBE - but then, one was head of all the unions and hotel workers (largest on the Islands), and one of their ancestors founded the black section known as Bain Town (where King Eric found a lot of his musicians for his nightclub and the young guys he gets to sail with him), which was/is populated by freed slaves and Africans.
Regrettable Van Susteren
The rise of Greta Van Susteren.
By Jonah Goldberg
From the October 26, 1998, issue of National Review
EDITOR’S NOTE: Greta Van Susteren defected yesterday to the Fox News Channel. Van Susteren marks Fox’s second recent high-profile liberal addition, the first being Geraldo Rivera. In the October 26, 1998, issue of National Review, Jonah Goldberg wrote “Regrettable Van Susteren” about Miss Van Susteren and her ardent Clinton defending.
he smoke has not yet cleared enough to determine exactly which part of the civic culture has been damaged the most by the Clinton presidency. But surely one noxious outcome of Bill Clinton’s effrontery has been to advance the “legal analyst” to the highest niche in television’s pundit taxonomy.
Increasingly, the pundit class is dominated by people trained primarily in how to keep guilty people out of jail. Thus these new pundits are especially gifted in the techniques of equivocation, confusion, distraction, and blame shifting. So, largely thanks to the lawyers in this Administration of lawyers, and to their colleagues on TV, we have a scandal that is called complex (”What are High Crimes and Misdemeanors really?”) when it is actually quite simple (”He’s a pig”).
The dogs of law were first unleashed on the viewing public by the decision to allow cameras in the courtroom, together with the boom in all-news networks. They found their supply of raw meat in the televised trials of William Kennedy Smith, the Menendez brothers, and, of course, O. J. Simpson. Their influence was as deeply pernicious as it was straightforward: “Put the system on trial.” They made Davids out of alleged rapists, Goliaths out of venerable institutions, and jokes out of deadly serious moral points. Jill Abramson claimed that her clients, the Menendez brothers, did not blow their parents’ heads off. Instead the boys merely unloaded a shotgun in their direction.
But the Clinton scandal is something new. Using the independent counsel as their entree, the lawyers have replaced the philosophers, journalists, and politicians as the priestly class charged with reading the entrails of the Clinton presidency. En masse they have slithered from the shadow of O. J. to become the Greek chorus of the Clinton scandal. It should not be surprising, then, that the high priestess of Clinton apologists is the first among equals from the O. J. punditocracy: Greta Van Susteren, co-host of CNN’s Burden of Proof and ubiquitous CNN legal analyst. She is, thanks to CNN’s global presence, the international poster girl for all that is wrong with American political commentary.
Miss Van Susteren distinguished herself during the O. J. Simpson trial by muddying the waters of Simpson’s crystal-clear guilt by picking at procedural nits. This was a clever marketing tactic — if every intelligent person in the world thinks X, television producers will seek out and exalt someone who argues for Y, all in an effort to provide “balance.” Miss Van Susteren became a passionate advocate for Simpson — although she often denied it. She was masterly at importing a courtroom technique into the television studio: the moral equivalence of facts. According to this credo, an almost comical abundance of DNA evidence carries no more weight than one detective’s racist comments ten years before the murder in question. As Felix Frankfurter once observed, “To some lawyers, all facts are created equal.”
While this kind of argumentation is despicable, we make allowances for it in the courtroom because of our admirable devotion to due process, especially in capital cases. But Greta Van Susteren and her colleagues have carried this mode of analysis into the political arena. It has had a lobotomizing effect on civic discourse. For example, on September 21 on Larry King Live Judge Robert Bork asserted that a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court would be, and should be, impeached if he was sexually serviced by an intern in his chambers-even if he never lied about it. That someone should be punished for something that is not a crime flummoxed Miss Van Susteren to the point of incoherence, “Maybe if he’s a bachelor, may-have-what if he’s a . . . bachelor? . . . as consenting adults?”
There was a time when poor manners and dishonorable behavior were judged as reprehensible as committing a crime. In Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Claude Rains tries to commit suicide on the Senate floor because he has disgraced himself, not because he’s going to jail. Today if one has violated every tenet of decency but stopped short of violating criminal law — a constantly moving goalpost — then one is merely expressing oneself (like Larry Flynt) or minding one’s own business (like David Cash, the vile Berkeley student who stood aside as his friend raped and murdered a young girl). We are greeted constantly with the images of scoundrels triumphantly leaving courthouses celebrating the fact that their repugnant behavior was found not to have technically violated the law.
Now the president of the United States benefits from this new standard. During the seven long months when Bill Clinton interrupted the business of government far more severely than any “government shutdown,” and allowed the entire Executive Branch to lie for him, Greta Van Susteren was his chief cheerleader. The president was just another perp, with no obligation other than staying out of the orange jumpsuit of the federal penitentiary. She argued time and again that the president should be praised for “standing on his rights” and that he has no obligation to clear the air about whether or not he’s a scoundrel. “Had I been the president’s lawyer,” she said, “I would have urged him to fight this all the way to the United States Supreme Court.”
In the end, all the legalese may simply be a con. Miss Van Susteren is pathological in her insistence that she is not a journalist. She asserts that she is a lawyer first and foremost and just concerned with “arguing the evidence.” This is plain dishonesty. Say what you will about the serpentine James Carville or even Geraldo “I want to hug the President” Rivera, at least their biases are open for inspection. The legal pundits claim in an aw-shucks style that they are simply stating “the law.” This infuriates lawyers who actually care about the validity of the law. Miss Van Susteren often suggested that there was no precedent for a president to testify. But there are numerous recent examples of presidents offering testimony, including Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. Miss Van Susteren suggests that everyone ranking higher than the White House janitor has executive privilege, although the judges before whom the question has been brought scoff at the notion and hand Kenneth Starr courtroom victories.
Miss Van Susteren recently observed of Clinton’s testimony, “There was no perjury. . . . I mean is the president obligated to make out the case for Paula Jones’s lawyers?” According to Stuart Taylor, writing in National Journal, “The most charitable interpretation of such stuff is that Van Susteren had read neither the Jan. 17 deposition transcript replete with unambiguous perjuries — nor the Starr Report, which provides so-far-unrebutted proof of those perjuries and powerful evidence that Clinton resumed perjuring on Aug. 17.” We can forgive Paul Begala’s distortions of the truth on behalf of Bill Clinton, but should CNN’s leading legal analyst fall in the same category?
Greta Van Susteren elicits strong feelings, which usually translate into high ratings. She is a ubiquitous presence on CNN, constantly on the air even when Burden of Proof isn’t. She co-hosts the show with Roger Cossack, who is at best like the silent partner from Penn and Teller: a silent straight man whose interruptions are only permitted to allow Van Susteren to take a breath or for comic relief. To explain Miss Van Susteren’s perspective, many critics point to
her real partner. John Coale*, her husband as well as her law partner, is a self-described “ambulance chaser” and has enthusiastically earned himself one of the most nefarious reputations in the country. In 1984 he acquired the nickname “Bhopal Coale” by being the first lawyer to hop on a plane to India to sign up gas-leak victims who couldn’t even read their retainer documents.
American Lawyer magazine called him “a symbol for everything wrong with the plaintiff’s bar.” In 1987 the same magazine awarded Coale its Most Frivolous Suit Award: He had sued his tailor, on the grounds that the sub-par work on his shirts had subjected him to “public humiliation . . . severe emotional distress, and embarrassment.” The West Virginia Bar tried to disbar both John Coale and Greta Van Susteren for their allegedly unethical behavior in soliciting the families of coal-mine accident victims, among others. Coale’s repeated unapologetic defenses of his professional practices are true to form: “Everything I’ve done is permissible under the First Amendment.”
This attitude highlights the deeper sympathy between Greta Van Susteren and Bill Clinton. Trial lawyers are the president’s most loyal constituency — and not just because he employs so many of them. They contribute vast amounts of money to his campaigns and to the Democratic party generally. Indeed, when one looks at the lawyers who are his most ardent defenders they are trial lawyers, starting with the wildly biased Larry Pozner, president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. Those lawyers who are more critical of Clinton’s behavior — Robert Bork, Jonathan Turley, James Stewart — tend to be academics or self-described journalists. If Miss Van Susteren and all those lesser lights who imitate her on the various television shows claim that their first allegiance is to the legal profession rather than to journalism, is it any wonder they are wild defenders of the president?
When Bill Clinton announced that he would have a Cabinet that “looks like America,” he must have thought that 90 percent of Americans had passed the bar exam. For quite some time he relied on Jeremy Bentham’s adage: “Lawyers are the only persons in whom ignorance of the law is not punished.” Had Bentham lived two centuries later he might have said, “Television lawyers.”
*Note: When this article originally appeared, John Coale was erroneously identified as “James Coale.” We regret the error and it has been corrected here.
Lawyerly Lairs: Greta Van Susteren and John Coale’s Big Apple Crash Pad
Lawyer-turned-news-anchoress Greta Van Susteren, and her husband, Washington lawyer John Coale, have snagged themselves a nice piece of Manhattan real estate. Yes, they’re based in DC. But when they visit NYC, they can enjoy this pied-a-terre (as described in the New York Observer):
The host of Fox’s On the Record and her husband, a D.C. lawyer, dropped $2.57 million for a 1,582-square-foot apartment on the site of the former Studebaker Building on Broadway at 48th Street after selling their Central Park South condo this summer.
The old place, they said, was cramped; their new one has two bedrooms and a private terrace.
“The problem with that place is that we had no windows,” Mr. Coale said of their old Essex House digs. While their new condo, at 1600 Broadway, offers all the Blade Runner glory of Times Square, he said, the Essex apartment’s view opened up “into the back of another building.”
“You look out and you see Times Square!” said Ms. Van Susteren. “What can I say, how can you not love Times Square?”
When she was lured over to Fox News several years ago, Van Susteren snagged a salary of almost seven figures. That’s more than enough to cover mortgage payments on a $2.6 million apartment (although the couple also has other real estate holdings, including a D.C. home and a condo in Clearwater, Florida).
And what about her hubby — what does he do? As it turns out, Coale isn’t with any of the Biglaw D.C. firms. Rather, he’s a plaintiffs’ lawyer. More about him, after the jump.
John Coale’s website is available here. But it’s far more interesting to read the harsh critiques of Coale, like this one (entitled “John Coale, Ambulance Chaser”). Or these comments, from the National Review:
John Coale, [Van Susteren’s] husband as well as her law partner, is a self-described “ambulance chaser” and has enthusiastically earned himself one of the most nefarious reputations in the country. In 1984 he acquired the nickname “Bhopal Coale” by being the first lawyer to hop on a plane to India to sign up gas-leak victims who couldn’t even read their retainer documents.
American Lawyer magazine called him “a symbol for everything wrong with the plaintiff’s bar.” In 1987 the same magazine awarded Coale its Most Frivolous Suit Award: He had sued his tailor, on the grounds that the sub-par work on his shirts had subjected him to “public humiliation . . . severe emotional distress, and embarrassment.” The West Virginia Bar tried to disbar both John Coale and Greta Van Susteren for their allegedly unethical behavior in soliciting the families of coal-mine accident victims, among others.
Well, hey — it’s a living. We’d whore ourselves out for a lot less than a million-dollar condo.
Greta’s Grabbo: Fox News Valkyrie Drops $2.57 M. on Times Square Aerie [New York Observer]
1600 Broadway [official website]
John Coale [official website]
Regrettable Van Susteren [National Review]
http://www.abovethelaw.com/2006/08/lawyerly_lairs_greta_van_suste.php
but if HK flipped on KE, then why fly back? he said his initial flight was cancelled?delayed? so why not spend the nite in NY, get a sauna, catch a show, and mosey on home when the fire had burned down? all innocent, like? what better excuse than a delayed flight? I’m not sure of the timeframe of the tape of KE being escorted by her attny, but KE didn’t even have lipstick on...so I tend to think maybe she was woken up, which would mean HK has a key to her house, maybe? some neighbors/friends do..just speculation
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