[William Tell]

robertpaulsen said: "So we agree, at least, that the right to defend yourself does not include a gun?"

Absolutely not.

[robertpaulsen]

Does a foreigner have a right to defend himself when he's visiting the United States? Does a foreigner have a right to defend himself with a gun when he's visiting the United States?

Now, how can you possibly say that the right to defend yourself includes the right to defend yourself with a gun?