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1 posted on 08/28/2007 7:09:09 PM PDT by PinkChampagneonIce
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Are/were Nazis leftist socialists, or right-wing fascists?

Yes.

2 posted on 08/28/2007 7:11:28 PM PDT by holymoly (The Second Amendment - Americas' original "Department of Homeland Security".)
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ALL ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM: An Appendix, by Jerry E. Pournelle.

3 posted on 08/28/2007 7:13:36 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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You probably should consult the grammar police. That headline makes my head hurt.


4 posted on 08/28/2007 7:14:42 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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NSDAP National Socialist German Workers Party.

Socialist is normally left of everyone except the Communists.

Workers’ World Daily is left of everyone!

As Nationalists, They were only “right” in the sense of “less collectivist” compared to the Internationalists.

Me, I am just slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. I have to go rest up for my next session of looting and pillaging.


5 posted on 08/28/2007 7:15:36 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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The Communist Party USA opposed going to war against Nazi Germany until Adolph Hitler betrayed Uncle Joe Stalin if that means anything to your decision.

These Communists rallied in the streets to oppose “war” (an opposition they soon dropped). These SAME Communists rallied in the streets to support their North Vietnamese comrades (and make no mistake that Jane Fonda was public in her support for Communism and North Vietnamese dominance of that country). These SAME Communists rally in the streets to oppose war in Iraq.

I loathe Socialists.


6 posted on 08/28/2007 7:16:11 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: PinkChampagneonIce

The National Socialist Worker’s Party of Germany (NAZI Party) was extreme left socialist.

Unfortunately, politics is not linear, it is a circle.

The difference between extreme left and extreme right is nonexistent - just, who rules.

In either case, they mean to rule, and you will submit, or be killed.

BTW, the German name was NSDAP. In Englisch, Nazi.


7 posted on 08/28/2007 7:16:26 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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Nazis were socialists despite all the indoctrination to the contrary. This was discussed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1886452/posts

based upon a very thorough article here:

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html


9 posted on 08/28/2007 7:17:01 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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From Wikipedia:

Nazism, a form of National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), refers primarily to the totalitarian ideology and practices of the Nazi Party (National Socialist German Workers' Party, German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) under Adolf Hitler. It also refers to the policies adopted by the government of Germany from 1933 to 1945, a period in German history known as Nazi Germany or the "Third Reich".

11 posted on 08/28/2007 7:19:07 PM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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Read Heyack, The Road to Serfdom, it explains Nazism very well and illustrates it's socialist foundaiton.
13 posted on 08/28/2007 7:22:21 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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During the Night of the Long Knives in 1934, Hitler purged everyone from the National Socialist Party who thought that the party was about socialism. He did this for several reasons.

He started out on the left, but went right when it suited him.

15 posted on 08/28/2007 7:23:39 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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I always felt that the big difference was that the Fascists allowed some free enterprise where the Communists wanted to control everything. Using this reasoning has led me to conclude that China and Russia have flipped from Communism to Fascism.


18 posted on 08/28/2007 7:24:40 PM PDT by chopperman
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National Socialist German Worker's Party.

Socialist Worker's Party - which do you think, right or left?

19 posted on 08/28/2007 7:24:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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that’s a leftist sham to call the nazi’s “right wing.”

national socialism IS a socialism.

so, nazism and communism both are of socialism.


22 posted on 08/28/2007 7:26:21 PM PDT by ken21
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The only important difference between Nazi-ism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism and Liberalism is the spelling, and that the last group hasn’t got the brains to figure it out.
- Bill Vance


24 posted on 08/28/2007 7:31:53 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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If you believe the state should define the purpose of life and control the means by which that purpose is achieved, then you’re a totalitarian. If you believe it will happen all on its own as history inevitably works it out, then you’re a leftist. If you believe the state, led by a vanguard working on behalf of history or a new economic order or a new race of human beings, has to be the training wheels for the New Man, then you’re a fascist. If you want to control the state to enrich yourself and the members of your party, then you’re just a run of the mill mafia type who has found a better way to turn a buck than prostitution, loan sharking, gambling, unions, or drugs.


25 posted on 08/28/2007 7:33:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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Fascism was such a short lived phenomena that it never really developed many theoretical works explaining itself. There was a fascist economics that took form and that theorists tried to develop called corporatism, but it’s fuzzy, undeveloped. I personally think fascism is the more robust system compared to communism. It does not destroy the entire market, but allows a market to function within a totalitarian state. The market functions without absolute property rights though, since the state is all powerful.


26 posted on 08/28/2007 7:35:03 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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Nazis are leftist socialists


27 posted on 08/28/2007 7:35:27 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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“were”.

There are no more Nazis. They’re extinct.

You can still see them regularly however in movies. And in more movies. And in more movies. To watch movies, you would think there are millions and millions of Nazis. Everywhere.

That is not correct. Nazis are extinct.


29 posted on 08/28/2007 7:38:27 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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Nazi - National Socialists.

National - They love their country.
Socialists - They love your money.

So, they are like Conservatives and Liberals...

32 posted on 08/28/2007 7:47:25 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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The terms ‘left’ and ‘right’ were defined by the left. Anything that opposed International Communism, be it free-market classical liberalism, Throne-and-Altar European conservatism, or Naziism or fascism (actually distinct phenomena) was defined to be ‘right wing’.

The same trick is used now-days by the American left: paleoconservatives, neoconservatives, libertarians (as long as they talk about economics often enough), nativists, and actual racists of the KKK or neo-Nazi varieties are all called ‘right wing’.

The terms left and right have no useful meaning, unless you happen to be a leftist, in which case you use them to feel good about your own idiocies by imagining that Russell Kirk and David Duke, Edmund Burke and Adolph Hitler are all cut from the same ‘right wing’ cloth.


34 posted on 08/28/2007 7:58:14 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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