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Diabetes Damaged Linked To Vitamin B1 Shortage
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-8-2007

Posted on 08/07/2007 6:10:11 PM PDT by blam

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To: Eighth Square; rahbert; JasonC
Pulses

Peas, beans and lentils are known as pulses. They are the seeds of plants belonging to the family Leguminosae, which gets its name from the characteristic pod or legume that protects the seeds while they are forming and ripening. With approximately 13,000 species, the family Leguminosae is the second largest in the plant kingdom and it is very important economically.

21 posted on 08/07/2007 7:14:31 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: IslandJeff

Ping.


22 posted on 08/07/2007 7:38:28 PM PDT by JRochelle (WalMart's 'Great Value' brand to be renamed, to be called the 'Great Wall' brand.)
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To: blam
The best animal source is pork meat.

More barbecue, please.

23 posted on 08/07/2007 7:40:02 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: blam

Thank you. I appreciate this information.


24 posted on 08/07/2007 7:42:15 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: blam

Thanks for the heads up, I’m very much into nutrition including lots of veggies and fruits.


25 posted on 08/07/2007 8:03:17 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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Diabetes Ping List
FR mail me to add yourself!

Thanks to JRochelle for the heads-up!

26 posted on 08/07/2007 8:49:08 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Psalm 19)
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To: irishtenor

Check into benfotiamine. My son’s a Type 1 and he takes it twice a day.


27 posted on 08/07/2007 11:21:24 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: Fairview
About 8 years ago I was diagnosed with prediabetes. My doctor put me on Metforamin and a NO carb diet for 3 months. After the no carb months, I was limited to 60g of carbs a day for life.

Within a month, all of the symptoms that led me to the dr were gone. By the end of month three, I'd lost 20 pounds and felt wonderful. After a year on the 60g a day diet I gradually "fell off the wagon" and still did really well for several years. Just now I'm starting to "feel it" and I know that it's time to do the right thing again.

This doctor really did cure me of type 2 diabetes. Yes, in the beginning the diet sucked and got really boring. But the 60g a day wasn't that bad.

28 posted on 08/07/2007 11:28:46 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

My son’s a highly active diabetic. Activity can actually screw up control for anyone using insulin and cause them to go low at night until they figure out how to manage the metabolic boost.


29 posted on 08/07/2007 11:30:19 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: XeniaSt

Benfotiamine! WONDERFUL STUFF! :-)


30 posted on 08/07/2007 11:30:51 PM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: Marie; All
Two good resources:


31 posted on 08/08/2007 5:08:48 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Frank Sheed
Type I and Type II involve a reduction in insulin to one degree or the other. It's more like a loss of beta cells.

Alternatively, the Type IIs may have a process at work which is designed to rid the body of excess levels of thiamin.

If, for example, the normal diet were reindeer or similar game for a couple of hundred thousand years, with side orders of seal, when available, or salmon in season, and hold the veggies, you could have an adapted population that would be swimming in thiamin.

So, is there some toxic level of thiamin we should know about?

32 posted on 08/08/2007 5:23:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Marie
A type 1 woman I knew in Denver had this problem. Exercise could pushed her into a fainting spell. Low blood sugar.
The only time I ever experienced this was when I was first diagnosed and was on insulin for about 5 weeks. If I wasn't careful, I could get a 20 on my meter. I take metformin now.
33 posted on 08/08/2007 6:39:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: XeniaSt
Speaking of Dr. Rosedale, here are a couple of interesting links:

Insulin and Its Metabolic Effects

Search "rosedale" on www.Mercola.com

34 posted on 08/08/2007 6:59:57 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: muawiyah

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/thiamin/

The B complex plus C is widely available in “Stress tab or Stress vitamin” formulations. These have levels of up to 1000% the MDR for these compounds.

I take a routine “over the counter” B complex tab each day in addition to the morning multivitamin. I’d be careful about too much niacin, though, as it can cause problems in ultra-high doses. That is why I avoid Stress tab formulations.

The old saw from biochem is that it is the “fat solubles” that can get you into trouble including A, D and E. If you want an antioxidant instead of E, might be better to go to alpha-lipoic acid which has shown some interesting results in stopping free radical formation.


35 posted on 08/08/2007 7:53:56 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: blam

Funny, I am not convinced this is a symptom of diabetes or a symptom of the diet most diabetics are placed on...

Look at the sources of B1... Milk, Cheese and fruit are generally limited in their intake by diabetics due to their carb levels.

Is this a symptom of the disease? or a result of the restrictive diet diabetics generally are placed on?


36 posted on 08/08/2007 7:57:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Marie

Thanks for the reinforcement. It’s good to hear that minimizing carbs can work to eliminate this. I’m doing Phase I of South Beach and it does restrict carbs considerably. I’m not interested in bread, pasta, potatoes, and rice anyway, so no great loss. In the future, I’d be able to get by on 60 grams of carbohydrates a day.


37 posted on 08/08/2007 8:32:19 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Fairview

Sleep-walk?


38 posted on 08/08/2007 1:49:19 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: blam

Thank you so much.


39 posted on 08/08/2007 8:08:01 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Marie

AGREED, and thank you so much!!!


40 posted on 08/08/2007 8:49:18 PM PDT by MarMema
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