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The Hobbit Hole XXXIV - But better than rain or rippling streams...

Posted on 08/07/2007 7:52:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Sing hey! for the bath at close of day
That washes the weary mud away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Water Hot is anoble thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain.
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than rain or rippling streams
is Water Hot that smokes and steams.

O! Water cold we may pour at need
down a thirsty throat and be glad indeed;
but better is Beer, if drink we lack,
and Water Hot poured down the back.

O! Water is fair that leaps on high
in a fountain white beneath the sky;
but never did fountain sound so sweet
as splashing Hot Water with my feet!

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To: Corin Stormhands
I think that the time-traveler would have invested in both the North and Europe.

He urged his friends to get North before the War, but the only one who really listened to him was six years old.

But she did listen ...

2,041 posted on 09/02/2007 12:19:35 AM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [.... she listened to his stories, and remembered what she heard ....])
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To: Rose in RoseBear
Hmm, what's the anti-funkle charm?

Oh well, I suppose this'll work...

2,042 posted on 09/02/2007 12:22:28 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Loot it while it lasts)
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To: RosieCotton
Out of curiosity, have you found a good replacement for Peacock Blue?

No! Ticks me off, too!

Did you read the article at www.pendemonium.com? Have you tried the new turquoise?

2,043 posted on 09/02/2007 12:27:41 AM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [.... I'm in ur penz, messin' wit ur inkz ....])
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
<getting up from my computer>

You can run, but you can't hide ...!

2,044 posted on 09/02/2007 12:35:18 AM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [.... following the fuzzy one ....])
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To: 300winmag; Ramius; g'nad; All
Ok, gun-pron/Nano-prep question(s):

1. You're invited to go hunt red deer on a British estate. What's your rifle of choice?

2. You're purchasing firepower for Islamo-fascist revolutionaries and have an unlimited credit line on some Saudi cash. Given some MOUT operations (against civil authorities), some rural patrols ("peacekeeping"), and field expedient ground systems in-country (SUVs).... what do you buy?

2,045 posted on 09/02/2007 4:03:00 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Rose in RoseBear
Don'tcha just love back stories??

I wrote out one for one of my minor characters. His father gave him a knife to take with him to WWII, but his Lt was an unreasonable chap and decided to make an issue about the non-standard equipment. So they butted heads about it, but ultimately minor character used the knife to save his Lt's life in a little encounter with the Germans. Minor character gives the knife to a MC who in turn uses it in a tense-moment-to-be-outlined-later and adds another chapter to the story of the knife.

2,046 posted on 09/02/2007 4:11:45 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Rose in RoseBear

Good Morning Rose: The Railroad pen is a double ruling pen. The ruling pen had a hollow handle to allow the pen to swivel freely, it was used to drawing curvilinear lines, like contours on a map. The railroad pen would draw parallel lines of equal and or unequal width. It was trial and error, set the points, drop in some ink, draw a line, let it dry and then compare the width of the line to line guide to see if it was the correct width. You turned a little adjusting wheel to make it wider or narrower. The railroad pen had to ruling pens in a single handle, each one independently adjusted and only rarely were the same width the first time you tried. Practice made perfect or at least the ability to produce reasonably accurate maps or drawings in my case. Drafting and cartography were interesting and I did enjoy them up to a certain point. :-)


2,047 posted on 09/02/2007 5:16:11 AM PDT by osagebowman
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To: 300winmag

Morning Winmag, great gun ‘pron’ for this Saturday night. While the instructions seem clear enough, it isn’t till the close-ups you see the inherent ‘opportunities’ for mangled digits.

The tool you show would seem to be a need waiting to be full-filled by some enterprising machinist-gunsmith. I know I’d want one if I had that model of HK.

Needless to say, that’s a great looking rifle.


2,048 posted on 09/02/2007 5:24:24 AM PDT by osagebowman
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To: 300winmag

Thanks fer the thorough research and graphics bro... a challenging issue, tuh say the least...

love your stock...


2,049 posted on 09/02/2007 5:47:55 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: Lil'freeper; 300winmag; g'nad; Ramius; ExGeeEye; RosieCotton; JenB; TalonDJ; Rose in RoseBear

Well, as long as we’re doing Nanowrimo research, here’s muh question:

I need a ~legitimate~ reason that someone with a high draft number would have been turned away in 1970. Don’t want it to be too debilitating, but something that would keep him out even though he wanted to go.


2,050 posted on 09/02/2007 5:57:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Lil'freeper

Morning LF: well, if you want something somewhat off the beaten path, you could go with something like 6.5 Mannlicher-Schoenauer (introduced around 1900); the .275 Rimless (Rigby) or .280 Flanged Nitro Express (Landcaster); The .275 would be for bolt action rifles and .280 would be for single and double rifles. These two latter were developed around 1907 and 1910.


2,051 posted on 09/02/2007 5:58:03 AM PDT by osagebowman
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To: osagebowman

Ooooh very good! I’ll put those in the estate collection. They’ll be perfect for the estate owner - he’s a “collector” of items with “stories.” My Nano is set in the near-future so I’m interested in rifles of more recent vintage for his sons to use.


2,052 posted on 09/02/2007 6:13:11 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Morning Corin - how about flat feet or being deaf in one ear?


2,053 posted on 09/02/2007 6:16:05 AM PDT by osagebowman
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To: Rose in RoseBear

I haven’t tried the new turquoise. And it’s always hard to tell how an ink really looks from an on-screen picture! I may pick up a bottle at some point, though.

For turquoisey colors, my current favorite is Waterman’s South Seas blue. There’s a lot of shading to it, and it flows nicely. It’s lovely!


2,054 posted on 09/02/2007 6:51:38 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Corin Stormhands

Plantar wart or pilonidal cyst - painful but not too dibilitating. Embarassing for the character which is good for development.


2,055 posted on 09/02/2007 7:18:17 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

asthma could do it, too.


2,056 posted on 09/02/2007 7:19:05 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Lil'freeper
My Nano is set in the near-future so I’m interested in rifles of more recent vintage for his sons to use.

Red deer shooting (if it's still legal in near-future England) is as much an upper-crust activity as fox hunting or polo (both extinct, or nearly so). If you're interested in good manners, you'll equip yourself like an English gentleman should, with classy hundred-year-old weapons like Osagebowman mentioned.

If you want to make obvious that you're a brash American, you'll bring along your own high-tech stainless steel Remington 700 in some high-tech caliber, with a high-tech Leupold scope on it. And wear some digital camouflage outfit, rather than traditional hunting kit.

2,057 posted on 09/02/2007 8:40:11 AM PDT by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: 300winmag
In Scotland, deer hunting is actually fairly accessible for the average citizen or visitor. A lot of the old estates have been converted to "trust" land, roughly analagous to our Natl'l forests. As is the case here, there are no real predators for the deer and overpopulation is a perennial issue. My read is that the reforestation groups and the hunters are very much on the same page in terms of herd management because the dear deer eat the dear trees the greenies plant.

The "brash American" firearm would be appropriate for the chracter I have in mind, even though he's not an American.

2,058 posted on 09/02/2007 8:57:39 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Lil'freeper
My read is that the reforestation groups and the hunters are very much on the same page in terms of herd management because the dear deer eat the dear trees the greenies plant.

That's true, but the precious greenies, here and in England, would prefer that somebody teach the deer about using contraceptives, rather than killing them as vermin.

2,059 posted on 09/02/2007 9:05:27 AM PDT by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: Lil'freeper
2. You're purchasing firepower for Islamo-fascist revolutionaries and have an unlimited credit line on some Saudi cash. Given some MOUT operations (against civil authorities), some rural patrols ("peacekeeping"), and field expedient ground systems in-country (SUVs).... what do you buy?

Even with unlimited money, I'd go with off-the-shelf soviet bloc stuff. First, they don't have the brains for anything more. Second, the world is awash with it, and it doesn't raise any red lights like finding western high-tech gear would.

As for vehicles, the white Toyota pickup truck is the world standard for terrorist mobility. You can also carry a mortar and crew in the back for dismounted use. Take off the bed, and mount a Russian quad 12.7mm antiaircraft gun on it.

And RPGs for everybody, even if they can't hit anything with them. Throw in a few Dragunov SVDs for those troops that can actually figure out how to use the sights on a weapon.

2,060 posted on 09/02/2007 9:11:31 AM PDT by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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