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To: Quix
I don?t deal in kool-aid Only puzzle pieces . . . and priority values.

I apologise if I sound snotty but the evidence that I have seen so far thru the media and on independent websites just doesn't pass the "smell test".

I believe it is possible for there to be alien life, the universe is just too enormous for there not to be. But it is far more likely for to UFOs to be mistaken for natural occurance, faulty cameras or out and out fakery by persons wanting to be famous or personal greed.
Far too many hoaxes like "alien autosy" video.
That's why I asked you in good faith for leads to good information.

I can be converted.

I used to be a Democrat
299 posted on 06/22/2007 2:33:13 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: RedMonqey; Las Vegas Dave

Thanks for your elaborations.

I appreciate knowing more about your perspective.

Alas, I’m not THAT into trying to be a salesman.

I think the critters are evil and/or in cahoots with supreme evil—toward coercing the world into the global government.

I provide, to me, interesting info that’s plausible and/or in keeping with info already known from multiple diverse quality witnesses etc.

It is still quite difficult to impossible to sort out the disinformation from solid facts.

However, I do have the benefit of a relative who worked around them as well as studying it since Jr High. It might be conceivable for folks who are less than convinced that they know it all to consider that folks like Las Vegas Dave and a number of others hereon MIGHT JUST KNOW some things that the skeptic doesn’t know or won’t allow because of overweaning pride, or insecurity, or stubbornness or whatever.

I mostly don’t give a rip THAT MUCH any more about what the skeptic’s reasons are. I deplore their hijacking what should be a serious thread for a serious discussion. Let them start their own sick humor threads.

I’ve heard all the skeptics’ rationalizations and defenses for refusing to believe 100’s of times. They are not fun or interesting any more.

HTTP://WWW.ABOVETOPSECRET.COM

as well as BLACKVAULT

http://www.theblackvault.com/userinfo-MadJohn.html

I’ve followed Blackvault’s creator since he started at age 16.

STANTON FRIEDMAN is a quality physicist who is no nonsense and has a piercing logic and manner. He used to work on highly classified nuclear engines.

http://www.stantonfriedman.com/

He has interviewed probably more first experiencers and their families than anyone unless it would be Bud Hopkins or Linda Moulton Howe—and I suspect he’s close if not ahead of them.

He shoots down a number of skeptics standard criticisms fiercely and decisively.

Last night he was on C2C with Jesse Marcel’s son who handled some of the Roswell wreckage himself at age 11. He is now a 70 something year old MD surgeon recently back from practicing in Iraq with the National Guard.

Actually, when even 10% of the quality evidence is fairly considered, it is UNTENABLE that nothing is going on; that it’s weather balloons; lenticular clouds; Venus; swamp gas or any of the other BS so commonly offered. It actually takes more of a leap of irrational faith to NOT believe at this point than it does to believe something authentic is going on.

But, hey, I don’t give a rip about trying to force horses to drink.

Go ahead and disbelieve. Skeptics days of their death grips on disbelief are increasingly very, very numbered—it looks now that it could be months or a year or 3. I’d be very surprised to see it go beyond 5 years. But things are changing all the time. We shall see what tomorrow brings.

Just don’t expect me to do your research for you.

ABOVETOPSECRET.COM has tons of skeptics on it. They out lots of hoaxes ruthlessly and frequently. But there are also some quality scientists and first experiencers thereon who have solid factual evidence in support of something real and dramatic truly going on.

Cheers.


305 posted on 06/22/2007 7:20:41 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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