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The Plan to Disappear Canada (North American Union)
The August Review ^ | unknown | Murray Dobbin

Posted on 06/09/2007 7:22:27 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

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To: hedgetrimmer

” Why should a transnational corporation or foreign nation have a greater say than the citizens of a country?’

Such hysteria overlooks the way things have been for decades.
The Canadian subsidiary of MLW Worthington had to cancel a sale of locomotive engines to Castro because the US govt put pressure on the American parent company. That was thirty years ago.


41 posted on 06/09/2007 8:19:22 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: ken21

Canada does not want to be us.

This kind of “dot connecting” is as far-fetched as the logic that “truthers” use to claim that Bush knew/caused 9/11.

Canada is by far our largest trading partner, but they like being Canadians. As a matter of fact, many like being French-speaking Quebecers. This kind of hysteria over imagined loss of American power is truly sophomoric.

During the NAFTA debates in the ‘90s, I was living in Canada, and their greatest fear was to be swallowed up by America. They thought we would just take all of their natural resources which are the source of their wealth.When I listened to American talk radio and heard Americans worry about being bested by Canadian negotiators I got so frustrated. Why don’t Americans see and believe in the stupendous power of the American market? Is it a result of 35 or more years of media and our educational system selling the idea that America is weak when not evil or wrong?


42 posted on 06/09/2007 8:21:26 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: sionnsar
We'll take Alberta!

...the Bronx and Staten Island too.

43 posted on 06/09/2007 8:23:14 AM PDT by Socratic (Never be afraid to try something new. An amatuer built the Ark, Professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: maica

yeah, i’m aware of that.

many of the western canadian snow birds land in socal during the winter. i said many. and i’ve had many opp’s to talk to them and what you say is correct.

they drive like farmers!


44 posted on 06/09/2007 8:24:49 AM PDT by ken21 (tv: 1. sells products. 2. indoctrinates viewers into socialism.)
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To: ovrtaxt

World Net Daily reported that this was part of the latest immigration reform but try as I might I could not locate anything about it there. They stated it is on page 211 on the version time-stamped 5/18/07 11:58. Obviously I haven’t found the correct draft yet. I wanted to verify it but came up empty handed. If true, those gangsters in DC are even more shifty/sneaky that we gave them credit for.


45 posted on 06/09/2007 8:26:23 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: RachelFaith
Funny how it’s the far right in the USA and the FAR LEFT up North which are the most opposed to this. Strange bedfellows indeed.

Yah, they're 360 degrees apart in many respects.. ;)

46 posted on 06/09/2007 8:27:57 AM PDT by Riodacat (Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge, truth and reality sucks....)
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To: penowa

As a believer in the NWO I believe that this is the precourser....and those elites and globalists behind this are really smart....I think I am seeing “The Frog in the Pot” syndrome here....slowly every so slowly, they are bringing this about under our noses....and yes It may indeed be too late to try to stop it....


47 posted on 06/09/2007 8:29:49 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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http://www.rabble.ca/about_us/bios.shtml?x=830

Murray Dobbin
Vancouver
Columnist

Murray Dobbin, Vancouver based, has been a journalist, broadcaster, author and social activist for over thirty five years. A board member and researcher with the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, he has written five studies for the centre including an expose of charter schools and ten myths about the Canadian tax system. He has been a columnist for the Financial Post and Winnipeg Free Press, contributes to the Globe and Mail and other Canadian dailies and now writes a column for the Vancouver on-line paper The Tyee, which is reprinted in rabble.
He has also prepared radio documentaries for the CBC Radio’s Ideas series on subjects including taxes, human rights and the right-wing remaking of New Zealand.

Murray has been involved in many social movements over the years and is a past executive board member of the Council of Canadians. He is a policy analyst for the Council and authored their “Ziplocking North
America: Can Canada survive continental integration?” He has written five books, three of them critical profiles of Canadian politicians. His latest book, Paul Martin: CEO for Canada? exposes Martin’s corporate agenda for the country. He was the first to publish books on Preston Manning and Kim Campbell. His 1998 book, The Myth of the Good Corporate Citizen - Democracy under the rule of Big Business, has been described as a citizens’ guide to globalization.

Murray is also well known as a public speaker, addressing union and NGO conventions and educational conferences. Most recently he has focussed on the Bay Street initiative called deep integration, the annexation of Canada, and on the threat to public services posed by public private partnerships (P3s). He can be reached at mdobbin@telus.net.
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What this article does not mention is that Murray Dobbin is anti-business, anti-conservative and has authored books against various leaders of the Conservative Party for years.

Why do Freepers want to ally themselves with such a radical? I think it is irrational to think that Canada is a threat to the United States. I think that greater ‘harmonization’ of border crossing rules and surveillance and sharing of concerns about radical Islamists in either country is a great idea.


48 posted on 06/09/2007 8:31:22 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: RachelFaith

Funny how it’s the far right in the USA and the FAR LEFT up North which are the most opposed to this. Strange bedfellows indeed.

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Ever since I became interested in understanding political perspectives I have been annoyed that “far left” and “far right” are treated as being as far apart as possible on a straight line. I wish the model would be a circle instead of a line. The far right and left would touch each other and the opposite side of the circle would be the “moderates” or “middle of the road” which often means people with no interest or opinion on political issues. Each side of the circle would then trend from “uninterested” to “radical/one issue.”


49 posted on 06/09/2007 8:38:55 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: ken21

According to Canadian stats, there are on any given day a million Canadians in Florida. It doesn’t seem to upset the equilibrium of Florida or Canada.


50 posted on 06/09/2007 8:42:26 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: processing please hold

That’s why this new shamnesty bill is so important to Bush. It’s a cog in the wheel.


It’s not about jobs at all, it’s about the takeover of much of the southwest by Hispanic groups such as Aztlan, Raza and Mecha. Check it out here -http://www.aztlan.net/homeland.htm
and here - http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

I think it’s time for Sessions, Hunter, Coryn, Demitt, Tancredo et al to take the gloves off and bring this up and inform the people what the real agenda is. Who needs TV coverage of 12 to 20 million illegals who don’t want to assimilate or speak our language marching in the streets, demanding the vote?


51 posted on 06/09/2007 8:43:32 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: theFIRMbss

I LIKE HOW YOU THINK. ^_^


52 posted on 06/09/2007 8:45:35 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: maica

yeah, when i lived and worked in washington d.c.

i never ceased to be amazed at the quebec plates that i saw

going to and fro to florida on i-95 in january.

but i hardly ever see a quebecer out here in socal. we get the more-normal western canadians!

western canadians have less hostility to the u.s. and share a greater affinity.


53 posted on 06/09/2007 8:47:16 AM PDT by ken21 (tv: 1. sells products. 2. indoctrinates viewers into socialism.)
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To: ovrtaxt

“We need to come up with some real solutions......”

We can start right here...need to run through 34 state legislatures...

http://www.articlev.com/repeal17.htm


54 posted on 06/09/2007 8:48:23 AM PDT by mo
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To: IM2MAD
It’s not about jobs at all, it’s about the takeover of much of the southwest by Hispanic groups such as Aztlan, Raza and Mecha. Check it out here

I know. It isn't just about the whole SW now either, it's the whole American pie.

55 posted on 06/09/2007 8:55:48 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: ovrtaxt; Calpernia

This is getting spookier by the day. I wonder if the good folks in Canada have to put up with all the naysayers that we do?


56 posted on 06/09/2007 8:56:04 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

Nah, they are kept on drugs.

That is how many gangs recruit and keep members loyal.


57 posted on 06/09/2007 8:56:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

bump


58 posted on 06/09/2007 8:58:51 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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To: ovrtaxt

This is tinfoil hattery on par with DU.


59 posted on 06/09/2007 9:00:20 AM PDT by cammie
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To: processing please hold
That’s why this new shamnesty bill is so important to Bush. It’s a cog in the wheel.

Precisely so. W. Bush has become an enemy of the American people.

60 posted on 06/09/2007 9:04:37 AM PDT by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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