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To: DungeonMaster
The bible never says that she can [do all the things Mary is purported to do]. Using your logic the bible either needs to specifically say that she can or that she can't.

No. Using my logic, I would say that any claim you make that Christianity definitely excludes the possibility of life on other planets (or that Mary is the Mary of the Marianists) would have to be an argument based on your own reason, a tradition of the church, or other extra-biblical sources...that if the Bible says nothing on the topic, then we in reasoning on it must be honest and forthright in admitting that the Bible says nothing on the topic. If you want to make such an argument, fine...but cite your sources, please.

In fact, the Bible does say that Mary conceived a child by the Holy Spirit, as was prophesied. As for her being our co-redeemer, that would be a very significant point for the Bible to leave out, as redemption is a function of the Godhead.

To me the very points you cite are not arguments in favor of a particular exegetical method, but rather arguments (powerful ones) against Marianism.

415 posted on 05/10/2007 9:29:25 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
that if the Bible says nothing on the topic, then we in reasoning on it must be honest and forthright in admitting that the Bible says nothing on the topic.

If the bible says nothing on a topic then can we agree that the topic is of no significance? Those Marianism doctrines are very significant, yet the bible doesn't support them at all. Life on other planets, more advanced than us, capable of traveling here....VERY SIGNIFICANT!

To me the very points you cite are not arguments in favor of a particular exegetical method, but rather arguments (powerful ones) against Marianism.

Good, UFOism is parallel to Marianism and also without any support.

421 posted on 05/10/2007 10:04:12 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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