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To: Star Traveler

Excellent! The back story of Noah you give is quite plausible.

I’ve never been very fond of the concept of wiping the slate in such a wholesale manner, but at least I can see the reasoning behind it now.


346 posted on 05/09/2007 2:01:20 PM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: null and void

You said — “I’ve never been very fond of the concept of wiping the slate in such a wholesale manner, but at least I can see the reasoning behind it now.”

You know, I’ve been a Christian for a very long time, and have known (of course) about the world-wide flood from way back when. However, I must admit that it just seemed like a very drastic thing to me. I mean, I know that it happened, I know that God said that there was a long warning to the people (I believe for about 120 years prior to the flood) — but — man, that seemed pretty drastic. But, who was I to say any different?

However, once I really understood the thing about the angels and what happened there, it was like — it *all came together* and then it *made sense*. Now, a *lot of people* are very queasy about this sort of understanding. They just do not like it in the least — not at all. Why? Well, I have a feeling that it’s a pretty scary thought to a lot of people — to think that it’s at all possible and they simply do not like that idea.

And it certainly is a pretty scary thought, about that sort of thing going on, actually. And, I believe that it’s going to be happening once again, just before the time of Christ’s return — which puts a *lot of meaning* into Jesus’ words when He says — as it was in the days of Noah...

Whoah!!

And, look at what I see now..., people claiming to be in contact with certain aliens from other civilizations. What next? They want to come and live among us? What next? Them having “families”? Oh boy!

It sure seems that *someone* is getting the public ready for “alien contact” of some sort. However, it’s not going to the the aliens they think it is....

AND, let me ask this!! What is it about these “aliens” always experimenting with people and doing medical things to them (according to the stories)? What is it that is going on there, in that these details come out as facts? And furthermore, what is it when you hear supposed reports from some people who *claim* to have spoken to aliens that they are *interested in* our genetic makeup? What’s with that? This sounds awfully weird to me.

Could it be that these aliens are trying to “crack the genetic code” so they can do some strange and amazing things to it — or rather, so that they can, themselves, do some fiddling or altering to disguise themselves?

I mean, either these so-called “aliens” are total fabrications and everybody is telling a bunch of “hooey”! Or, there are really alien civilizations and these guys are doing “genetic research”. OR, these are those same kinds of fallen angels, who are making a “final push” for doing something to and against the human race (through “genetics”), before Jesus gets here again.

Now, you can ponder those three possibilities...

And that “genetic code” — that’s an amazing piece of code-work. It’s what preserves every species within its group. It’s what makes us part of mankind and human (along with the soul and spirit of life from God).

If some alien (or angels) want to try and “crack the code” — I don’t think they have the best interests of mankind in doing that. What do they want? To turn mankind into a bunch of slaves and automatons? Who knows...

Let me give that part of what Jesus said, in regards to Noah and his day —

Matthew 24:

37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,

39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Okay, what’s so darned special about “eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage” — other than it’s *so common*. Nothing at all. So, what is to differentiate this time from all other times.

Well, it’s the time of Noah, for one thing — and one would be expected to know what that means — outside of the context of “eating, drinking, marrying...” Jesus expected the people to know that.

And what is the context that requires the real understanding here? It would be that the angels had come down and polluted the gene pool to the near extinction of “man” (mankind). The people might not understand genetics in that day, but I’m sure they understood “half-breed” and “hybrid” and “not human”.

And other than it being an extremely violent and wicked time, all else was “normal” — in a sense. I guess like today, except that we haven’t seen that angel stuff yet (at least not that I know of... :-) ... )

BUT, here is an interesting aspect of what Jesus says about Himself, in connection with that time of Noah (although He says it elsewhere, too). He calls Himself — “Son of Man”...

And I’ve wondered a lot about why He calls Himself “Son of Man” so much. And then He’s saying it here once again. Well, for one thing, He is emphasized His total humanity — and *that* may be significant in light of what was *happening* in Noah’s day and time. Maybe this is a *contrast* to the “hybrid of angels” — Jesus *is* the “Son of Man”!! — as God intended. And that Jesus is the Savior of “man” and not of “hybrids” — for another.

Furthermore, the term “Son of Man” is not found *in reference to the Messiah* — very many times in the Old Testament. It’s a special term — though — that was recognized by the people of Jesus’ day. They *knew* and fully well understood that Jesus was talking about being the “Messiah of Israel” by using that term “Son of Man”. It was well known (not so well known or understood today, though).

So, where did that term come from, if not used very much in the Old Testament — in reference to the Messiah of Israel? Well, there is one book that is actually *referenced* in the Bible (something is “quoted” in the Bible that comes from another “book”). It’s a book that never made it into the Bible. But, even though it never made it into the Bible, the people of that day knew the book and read the book. We don’t know the book, today, and we don’t read that book, today. So, we don’t know.

But, the “Son of Man” comes almost *exclusively* from that book. It’s the Book of Enoch.

And guess what? The book of Enoch tells all about the angels that came down and cohabited with women and we find out much more to the story from it. The people of the day knew it, they knew what was going on at the time of Noah, Jesus knew it, He knew the people knew it — and He referenced Himself as the “Son of Man” — constantly — in opposition (partly, I believe) to the “hybrids of angels”...., in addition to being a recognized term for the Messiah of Israel.

Why did the book of Enoch not make it into the Bible? Well, there were several variants of the book around and they somewhat disagreed with one another. And if a book was not deemed to be *perfectly reliable* and 100% accurate — it simply was not *recognized* as the Bible. Thus, it never made it into the Bible. But, it’s the closest to being there — without being there... It’s just not part of the inspired canon of Scripture, that’s all.

It is, on the other hand — *instructive* for knowing what the people of that day knew and recognized and what they understood Jesus to mean when He said — “Son of Man”. At least that much one can say.

Reading the book of Enoch will give a very enlightening view of what may have been going on in that day. You might check it out...


348 posted on 05/09/2007 3:47:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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