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De La Hoya vs. Mayweather LIVE THREAD May 5th, 2007

Posted on 05/05/2007 11:53:47 AM PDT by Vision

Pay per view starts at 9pm. This is the fight of the year.

Mayweather is probably the best fighter in boxing right now. It will be great to see how Oscar shows up for this; it may determine the rest of his career.

Right now tradebetx has it to win:

Mayweather -199
Hoya +170



TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: boxing; delahoya; mayweather
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To: Vision

Give us the blow by blow coverage


21 posted on 05/05/2007 12:38:11 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Vision

All Oscar has to do is show up, The women will fix his battered body!


22 posted on 05/05/2007 12:43:36 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: mylife
Oscar is 33 years old. I don’t think age is his problem as much as is good living and family. He just doesn’t have the anger in him he used to. But we are talking about one of the GREATS!

Comacho is older and had issues that ended his career. If you google him you’ll get the answers.

23 posted on 05/05/2007 12:47:11 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

33 aint a problem!

I always admired De la Hoyas upbeat out look but it could be a detriment.

I grew up with Mancini and when the Duk Koo Kim thing happened he was heartbroken, lost his spirit, he just died inside


24 posted on 05/05/2007 12:54:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Vision
You see the weigh-in? De la Hoya looks like he's in the best shape of his life. I've never seen him looking that ripped. Abs popping out all over the place. That, together with his pre-fight preparation and training with Sugar Shane Mosley, and this could be a disaster for Mayweather.

Mayweather's a runner. He runs from fighters in the ring and out of the ring, and I don't think he's ever faced someone who can punch like de la Hoya. And having moved up in weight class again, it's going to be tougher for him than everyone thinks. PBFloyd's counting on getting in the ring with an old guy past his prime, but he may be in for quite a surprise. I'm guessing De La Hoya in 7.

Arghhh! Just checked that link and it's bogged down. Keep trying.

25 posted on 05/05/2007 12:55:37 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: mylife

I was too young to see that but it sounds horrible.


26 posted on 05/05/2007 1:08:40 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: LibWhacker
Great post. That’s what I’m saying about Hoya. He is such a winner you can never tell with him.

Fight of the year!

27 posted on 05/05/2007 1:10:35 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

Mayweather, not known as a knockout puncher, is stepping up in weight and wont have the power to hurt DeLaHoya. The Golden Boy, will hit Floyd like he’s never been hit before. DeLayHoya to win by early knockout.


28 posted on 05/05/2007 1:21:41 PM PDT by Whitebread
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To: Whitebread
God bless you but...

Mayweather has 37 wins, no losses, and 24 knock outs.
29 posted on 05/05/2007 1:25:36 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

Oscar... 7th round TKO. or Mayweather decision if it goes past seven.


30 posted on 05/05/2007 1:29:30 PM PDT by badpacifist (http://chris-sligh.info/content/view/40/31/)
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To: #1CTYankee

Shoot it’s worth it just to see if Oscar can pull one more out of the hat before he calls it a career. He’s been a great champion and the money you spend will probably land up doing good in the world.

Oscar has numerous charitable organizations he supports.

I’m shelling the money out and going to watch it in HD!


31 posted on 05/05/2007 1:41:10 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Perdogg

Bogus comment. Oscar has been a great champion and proved it many times.
Win or lose tonight, he’ll always be a champion.


32 posted on 05/05/2007 1:42:01 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Vision

Heck, when I was young, I scrounged up enough money to go see Hagler-Leonard in a movie theater in my neighborhood.

It certainly was worth it and I hope Oscar can take a little bit of rust off the old polish for one more ripping victory. Floyd is one helleva fighter though.


33 posted on 05/05/2007 1:43:31 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: UKrepublican

It’s on the West Coast here in the states, so best guess will be somewhere between 11 and 12 EST.

Enjoy!


34 posted on 05/05/2007 1:45:07 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: varon

That would be bloody amazing.


35 posted on 05/05/2007 1:45:37 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Rodney King

The advantage Oscar has is size and power since Mayweather has not been at this weight. Oscar should also add another 7-10 pounds by fight time.

So in terms of physical strength, Oscar has the edge. But in pure speed and class, Floyd is in a class by himself.


36 posted on 05/05/2007 1:47:01 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq
1987.

Floyd is one helleva fighter though.

Sure is.
37 posted on 05/05/2007 1:47:59 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: mylife

Oscar is 34 and has been contemplating his retirement for a while. He took on this challenge because he is a great champion.

Hector Camacho was a punk who smoke angel dust all the time. He had skills and watched it go up in smoke with a blunt of his dust.

Try to keep up.


38 posted on 05/05/2007 1:49:14 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: mylife

It was sad that a puncher with heart like Mancini had to see a horrible outcome with his opponent dying. No fighter wants to be part of that.


39 posted on 05/05/2007 1:50:13 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Vision
Hopkins has more losses, but has fought tougher opponents and more has more fights.

Hopkins defended his middleweight title successfully many times, and re-unifed the division for the first time since Marvin Hagler. He then, recently, moved up a weight class to take on the talented light heavyweight champion Tarver, and won.

His first championship fight was against Roy Jones Jr., often considered one of the top fighters of his generation, and fought him to a 12th round decision, which he lost.

He fought through the "middle weight unification tournament" and then beat Trinidad in a knockout. He knocked out Oscar de la Hoya in their big matchup. The first loss for both of these fighters.

He defended his title 20 times. He went undefeated from 1993 to 2005.

What was your boy doing in that time frame? According to the article sighted below

"From 1996 to early 1998, Mayweather fought against relatively easy opponents and won most of the fights by knockout or TKO. The most notable of these fights was a unanimous decision victory over former IBO lightweight champion Tony Pep on June 14, 1998."

Maybe Hopkins is past his prime, the retirement question was not rhetorical. But I'm not convinced that Mayweather is yet his equal.

RING agrees with you, by the way: they rank Mayweather #1 pound-for-pound, and Hopkins #7.

I just tend to favor boxers in the heavier classes, and the middleweight class has had a lot of great champions. Here's a fun site that matches up Hagler with all of them, including Bob Fitzsimmons, Jake LaMotta, and Sugar Ray Robinson.

In a similar article below one commentater suggests that Hopkins would have beat all of them except perhaps Sugar Ray Robinson, who he would be evenly matched with.

Hagler vs. Greats

Bernard Hopkins, greatest middleweight ever?

BernardHopkins story on wikipedia

This article makes the case for Carlos Morzon as the greatest middleweight of all time, but has a lot to say about Hopkins.

Will people really put Mayweather in the all-time-greats in his weight class?

We'll know more after tonight, that's for sure.

40 posted on 05/05/2007 1:50:41 PM PDT by Jack Black
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