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To: Quix

uh, oh sure. Goes without saying.

yep

Space aliens are demons sent by Satan.

Art Bell? that you?


45 posted on 04/25/2007 4:41:45 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Read the excellent materials from the following sites and see if you still retain such smug skepticism:

Guy Malone is the real deal. Very solid individual and a solid Christian. Used to have abduction experiences. Has helped a lot of families stop such goings on that had been occurring down through their family for generation after generation for hundreds of years.

http://www.ancientofdays.net/

http://www.alienresistance.org/

An excellent article available here:

http://www.alienresistance.org/angels_and_aliens.htm

begins:

In February of 2002, The History Channel flew Guy Malone to Los Angeles to interview him as part of a special entitled “Ufos in the Bible.” Producer Gabe Vandervort sent Malone a list of 10 questions he would like Guy to discuss, the answers to which were typed out beforehand, to rehearse from (which were posted below).

While grateful for the opportunity at first, please note that the special which aired DID NOT IN FACT faithfully represent Malone’s answers, but instead merely spliced in certain things said to affirm the flawed premise of the show. They did this with others who have likewise gone on record saying the same was done to them. That story and Malone’s response is here. Mike Heiser’s response is here.

Question #5 Go Here for all 10 questions and answers
In the Bible, angels are mentioned hundreds of times, often exhibiting super-human characteristics like the ability to walk through walls, read minds and communicate telepathically. How do these accounts compare with the mysterious beings of other cultures? What might be the explanation?
How do angels compare to aliens? (NOTE - The opening portion of this reply “corrects” the question itself; scroll down for comparison.)
This (first statement) is perhaps a popular assumption - and just because of that I’m glad you brought it up – but it is very incorrect. I stayed up late one night and counted appearances of angels in the Bible. While you can type in the word angel or angels into a computer Bible and get “hundreds” of matches, reading through with a Concordance I got just over 2 dozen actual appearances in the Old Testament, and less than that in the New (not counting Revelation). While I did count the same angel appearing over several verses as “one,” I also gave credit for the same story being told by different people as two or more to even it out.

About half of these appearances in the Old Testament specify “the angel of the Lord,” which is also known as a theophany – when God appears as an angel, before the Incarnation in Jesus Christ. So these instances are not really “angels” in the sense we’re discussing. Many more times, the angel appears in a dream or a trance or some other heavenly vision, which means the human witness was now “on their turf” and the idea of supernatural characteristics becomes moot, simply because they were not interacting in the physical realm at this time. (There is Biblical evidence to suggest that angels do have the ability to induce a trance, or deep sleep, to bring the human into their realm. This is very interesting in regard to the abduction phenomenon.) But no matter how you count them, angels actually appear not much more than 50 times in scripture, and certainly not even one hundred times, much less hundreds.

While angels certainly do have supernatural abilities, you’re also going to be hard-pressed to show me any instances in the Bible where they, “walk through walls, communicate telepathically or read minds.” They sometimes appear inside of a room, which may be said to have walked through the wall, but that’s not the way scripture describes the process, ever. They just appear. If you can show me even one instance where they walk through a wall, read someone’s mind or deliver a telepathic message - no matter how far you have to stretch the interpretation - I’ll give it to you for the sake of argument. But leaving out detailed dreams recounted by the scribe, I don’t think you can show me two.

All of THESE properties and abilities are very like what the “mysterious beings of other cultures” are reported to do however (as well as so-called aliens), so with that said I think we’re already well on the way to distinguishing that they are not reporting the activities of true Biblical angels – at least not the good ones whom the scriptures give detailed accounts of. All of these abilities may be true of angels, however, but we are already far from saying that UFO aliens, Jinnes or Jenies of the Koran, or any of the other entities in question actually can be directly classified as Biblical angels, serving God.

But now lets compare angels and aliens :

In the Bible, when they appear on earth, angels appear as human and they are quite beautiful – even Lucifer is described as an angel of light. Aliens appear as humanoid, and (by all accounts) are pretty ugly. They are the thin greys, the monstrous Reptillians, and then the less reported but overall very attractive Nordics. (However, these “Nordics” are often thought to be half human hybrids.)

Summary of the basic outline of the basic facts here:

http://www.alienresistance.org/christianufo.htm


47 posted on 04/25/2007 4:51:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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