“While the patient is intoxicated with GHB and apneic he or she may have episodes of violent agitation so physical stimulation must be kept at minimum. (THIS WOULD BE NOT SEEN IF GIVEN WITH METHADONE)”
Could you correct your comment? Would be seen or would not be seen?
Do you remember that Daniel was found with bruises on his body? That has mystified me. What took place? Did he and Howard leave together as Anna said to the nannies? We haven’t been privy to the hospital records yet, so it’s quite possible. Did they have a fight? Or was Daniel given that lethal mixture which made him physically agitated?
In both deaths, Howard was not physically examined by police right afterwards. Hmmm.
Could you correct your comment? Would be seen or would not be seen?
IMO the agitated component would not be seen. I think that methdone, even a bit in an unaccustomed person, would be enough to suppress the agitation symptoms and there would be little evidence of anything until the apnea set in. Apparently there are Cheyne Stokes respirations just before death which have alarmed several people who have remarked on them and therefore concluded they weren’t just seeing someone sleeping. As a result, they were able to get their family members (in one case it was a fiance and his friend) to medical attention in time. There are more than a few internet reports about intoxication with GHB and methadone.
“Do you remember that Daniel was found with bruises on his body? That has mystified me. What took place? Did he and Howard leave together as Anna said to the nannies?”
I don’t know. I think others have posted links to reports in the Bahamian newspapers that say things about this period. Maybe someone else can help here.
I thought I read one report that there was alot of blood splattered and bloody vomit or vomit all over the sheets in the room with Daniel. I also thought I read that the general consensus was that Daniel never left the hospital room, that that peice of info was a red herring put out there by virtue of Howard going out in Daniel’s jacket and baseball cap.
“We haven’t been privy to the hospital records yet, so it’s quite possible. Did they have a fight? Or was Daniel given that lethal mixture which made him physically agitated?” I believe the Methadone would have been sedative enough to have overridden the agitated component or phase before the apnea set in.
“In both deaths, Howard was not physically examined by police right afterwards. Hmmm”
HMMM indeed.