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“But the fact that he asked HOWARD K. STERN “Why am I so sleepy?”, now speaks VOLUMES to me!! Obviously, Daniel did not INTENTIONALLY take anything to make himself sleepy!”

Didn’t they find methadone in Daniel’s blood at autopsy?

Methadone certainly comes in liquid form - so it could have been in a soda. Methadone tablets are very little, could be ground up an put into anything, say catsup on a burger. Their relative tastelessness is something most people who’ve had anyone on hospice care could attest to. Hospice care often falls back on methadone - crushed, b/c they relieve significant pain without the nausea and hallucinations of dilaudid, morphine, etc. The individual just feels significant pain relief. In pain patients they aren’t even that sedated. However if the person is not in significant pain, or given too much for their size, and even 40 mg could be too much for a person who is on other medications which complicate the excretion of the methadone - like lexipro, the respiratory depression could overwhelm them.

You’re so right that the fact that he questioned why he was so sleepy is VERY significant. He clearly felt something UNANTICIPATED and was concerned. Not the comment of a drug abuser or someone who asked for a sleeping pill.

Also it could have been presented to Daniel as something “for a cold.” They’re really small, 10 mg tabs look pretty much like white claritin/loratadine tabs, Costco brand.

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683 posted on 04/08/2007 11:54:20 PM PDT by nynjanais
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685 posted on 04/09/2007 12:03:44 AM PDT by stlnative (Nobody asked me but that never stops me - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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If Daniel had accidentally picked up or was given Iced Tea that had Anna’s chloral hydrate in it (a higher dose than is what’s usually prescribed) wouldn’t the same thing happen...although...on second thought....isn’t there some speculation that the Bahamian ME found methadone, 4, 8 or even 10 times a normal dose, in his system?


703 posted on 04/09/2007 3:39:54 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: nynjanais; kcw2007; All
You’re so right that the fact that he (Daniel) questioned why he was so sleepy is VERY significant. He clearly felt something UNANTICIPATED and was concerned.

I so agree. I'm thinking back to a couple of weeks ago when a room here was being painted with alkyd paints. The fumes really make me sick, but this is a new thing for me so I didn't figure out the source at first- even when I got a headache and nausea, spiralling into faintness.

What I did notice after a while, with bewilderment, is I how "tired" I felt. and those were the words that came to mind. What that really was, was a sinking feeling. Just wanting to heave my heavy body on the bed and turn out the lights. I realise now that that was NOT normal- that it was the fumes affecting my nervous system. That the tiredness was not normal.

I don't know if Howard lied about this. But it's telling nevertheless, I think, because it sounds like Daniel was experiencing something unusual for him. And also Howard noted it (like a fool)- thinking he was pointing to something else, like maybe suicide or natural causes, when drugs can cause exceptional and notable symptoms. We have Daniel's supposed words as a witness to that.

1,022 posted on 04/09/2007 2:44:13 PM PDT by fluffytoo (I have known psychos, and you, sir, are a psycho.)
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