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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

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To: toldyou; Sacajaweau

Sorry for stepping in :) but Virgie is different. ANS was grown and had children. They are the ones who can legally (IMO) get the ball rolling BUT as Sac says we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes. The fact that HKS, KE and others may have been involved in both deaths are a complication and the fact that HKS can sue, a person has to do some hidden investigation work before it can come out in the open. HKS sued OQ and I am sure OQ counselled Virgie to keep her mouth shut for that reason. HE can afford to defend himself, Virgie can’t.


15,061 posted on 08/26/2007 6:34:47 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: sodpoodle
How does a private detective get information? It's not like they can ask Howard and KE to turn over their telephone records etc. or even MAKE LE do it. It's a difficult course to tread.

You're right that it is good to know that O'Q is still representing Virgie. I'm not even sure I would call it a pro bono case...It's more like "This lady has lost a grandson and a daughter...she needs my help". The money is nothing.

That's a little different from a pro bono case where not much money is required. Our local attorneys are expected to do an occasional pro bono case but they're all relatively quick and MINOR.

I was highly angered with Seidlin in saying Virgie shouldn't be taking HELP in the form of interviews etc.. I think she is more than entitled.

15,062 posted on 08/26/2007 6:43:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

“The hearings in Florida WERE about where Anna was going to be buried. Did you expect Virgie to jump up on the table and wildly exclaim: “I want Justice for Danny and Anna”.”

No. How silly to imagine Virgie jumping up on a table.

In my post, I was simply responding to PeskyOne’s comment: “I do believe you if you will go back to the hearings in Florida, you’ll find some of the information you are seeking.”

Apparently you misunderstood.


15,063 posted on 08/26/2007 7:07:58 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Sacajaweau

“Before Anna died, Virgie was on the Keith Ablow show. If you missed it, you missed a lot.”

I saw it, and it’s been re-played many times. I’m just wondering why she hasn’t appeared in the media crying out for justice in Daniel’s and Anna’s death. Several people here condemn LB for not doing so, and I’m asking why the mother/grandmother has not done so. That’s all.


15,064 posted on 08/26/2007 7:19:48 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou
I have seen Virgi Arthur many time on TV with concerns about Daniel and Anna Nicole. And, unlike you, I have not searched every day for it. Since you have such an extensive interest in this, maybe you can contact the authorities and demand action. You certainly have spent a lot of time on it.

For you to castigate Virige Arthur for not being another Beth is unfair and nasty. How many mothers have the wealth, health, opportunity, and above all the MEDIA SUPPORT to do what Beth has? How many other mothers of dead children have you seen do what Beth has? BTW, Beth has been criticized (not by me) many times for overdoing it since she has another child also. Now her marriage broke up.

15,065 posted on 08/26/2007 7:23:09 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: apocalypto

“”””How many mothers have the wealth, health, opportunity, and above all the MEDIA SUPPORT to do what Beth has?”””

Great comments/questions!

Beth Twitty was more photogenic and articulate than Virgie -& Beth did not have to endure *staged* videos by a blood sucking leech coaching a drug addicted Natalee to bash her mother!!! Additionally, Natalee is a more sympathetic victim because she did not have the fictional ‘white trash’ upbringing, Hollyweird background or *hangers-on* that surrounded Anna.

Virgie - a victim of double-crossing, superficial celebrity addicted media claptrap!


15,066 posted on 08/26/2007 8:04:00 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Sacajaweau

“””I was highly angered with Seidlin in saying Virgie shouldn’t be taking HELP in the form of interviews...””

IMHO - Seidlin was given his talking points by HK$. Nothing else makes sense. I wanted to believe Seidlin was giving a *fair and balanced* hearing....but he had Milstein all lined up ... it smelled of a pre-determined decision.


15,067 posted on 08/26/2007 8:11:03 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: toldyou
Yes, I have seen VA ask for justice more than once. Since you claim to be searching this topic almost every day, it is odd that you missed it.

As for VA crying on TV, has it occurred to you that maybe to appear on national TV you usually have to be invited and cannot just demand to appear? Or that perhaps HKS's lawsuit is preventing her from speaking out? Beth is an exception for reasons listed in above posts, not the rule in homicide cases.

I support those here who say something is wrong with LB to invited HKS to DL's birthday. I am not saying he wants her dead. However, HKS's track record must given anyone with an average IQ a pause.

LB is showing his unfitness as a parent by cutting out contact with one entire side of DL's family. For DL's sake, I hope these media reports are false.

15,068 posted on 08/26/2007 8:56:39 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: sodpoodle
Milstein is a piece of work. Seidlin gave himself away when he appointed him. I agree that he got his talking points from HKS. Considering the absurd statements made by Perper and Wecht’s comical meltdown, a lot of palms must have been greased.
15,069 posted on 08/26/2007 9:00:09 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Jane Austen

“LB is showing his unfitness as a parent by cutting out contact with one entire side of DL’s family.”

He might be concerned knowing the history of Anna’s family...such as mentioned here...
http://boards.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/message.jspa?messageID=1282215


15,070 posted on 08/26/2007 9:01:53 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou
Virgie raised Danny for his first six years. He got his "morality" from Virgie, not Anna. Anna doesn't like rules and never did.

And I'd say with the exception of Anna, Virgie was a damn good mother and grandmother.

15,071 posted on 08/26/2007 9:24:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: toldyou

I’d just call it an “anti-Virgie article.


15,072 posted on 08/26/2007 9:27:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: toldyou
I have never said they were model citizens. Yet none of this indicates VA poses a danger to DL. HKS does. His sister Bonnie is downright creepy.

LB and his stepmom are no model citizens either. Far from it. What has been reported about LB should given even greater concern.

15,073 posted on 08/26/2007 9:29:43 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Sacajaweau

“””I’d just call it an “anti-Virgie article.”””

by poster Knoxholly3 - a paid HK$ PI no doubt!!!!


15,074 posted on 08/26/2007 9:33:13 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: toldyou
Anna Nicole had Virgie Arthur raise Daniel.

Surely you agree that: Larry Birkhead's silence regarding the deaths of Anna Nicole and Daniel is DEAFENING.

15,075 posted on 08/26/2007 10:00:14 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Jane Austen

“””LB is showing his unfitness as a parent...”””

I’ll cut him some slack because of inexperience....but he sure is showing a lack of compassion for a grieving grandmother/mother. Aware of how Anna had been brainwashed and controlled by HK$ & KE, Virgie sympathized with & embraced LB, even though he was not Anna’s husband.

After some research, Virgie’s team must have found out there was *less to Larry* ....just before HK$ made his coercive moves and Larry’s double cross.


15,076 posted on 08/26/2007 10:00:46 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Yes, you have a point. Maybe LB is too much under the influence of the stepmother and HKS. I don’t recall where I heard something about him having an unrelated guy move in with him. A male nanny for DL? Hope it is not true.


15,077 posted on 08/26/2007 10:17:01 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Jane Austen

“”””Maybe LB is too much under the influence...”””

Having lived & been exposed to the “celebrity” lifestyle for the past several years, what are the odds LB’s everyday influences would include extended family, work colleagues, auto repair folks, waiters & short order cooks, cops, firemen, insurance salesmen, home improvement folks, computer techs, hairdressers .....or is he limited to shady lawyers, drug pushing physicians, groupies and wannabee movie stars?

He needs to expand his circle of friends - for DL’s future sanity!!!!


15,078 posted on 08/26/2007 11:08:09 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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Someone really needs to show Larry how to put a clip in Dannielynn’s hair.....lol
15,079 posted on 08/26/2007 5:57:42 PM PDT by shywolf
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To: shywolf

I was thinking the same thing! Those hair things make her look less attractive somehow. In US magazine this week there are two photos with Larry and her. Both times, as noted before by us, the baby is looking toward someone off camera or he has her face forward (for more $$)!


15,080 posted on 08/26/2007 6:24:19 PM PDT by SundayGardener
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