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Horseback-Riding Accident Kills Fla. Girl
local6 ^ | 22-march-2007

Posted on 03/22/2007 8:59:06 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

VENICE, Fla. -- A 13-year-old Venice girl died after being thrown from a horse.

Mary Angela Jaquith was practicing for a jumping competition at her family farm on Saturday when another member of her riding club had a problem with a horse. Jaquith saddled up to see if she could help.

But the horse reared back, threw Jaquith to the ground and rolled over her.

Jaquith's mother, Debra is a former nurse. She rushed to the girl's side and found her unconscious and bleeding heavily.

Jaquith was airlifted to All Children's Hospital in St. Petersburg.

Despite her riding helmet, Jaquith suffered a fracture to the base of her skull. She died on Sunday.

A Mass of Christian burial is scheduled for today in Venice.


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To: woodbutcher
But the point is that kind of horse gets treated like a baby, or a movie star.

No, he's treated as a star athlete. He gets the best money can buy for as long as he stays sound. If he doesn't, he gets sold down the river.

That's not a value judgment, really, just the truth. Horses of that caliber aren't pets, they're a means to an end, and that end is sport. If they don't match the pace needed, a horse will be found that will.

Becky gave two opinions... one... that she doesn't get the mindset of those who would want to do it. So what? And jumping does break down horses before they would if they weren't jumping. I don't know anyone in the sport who wouldn't acknowledge it carries quite a bit of risk of injury, both short and long term. Any hard athletic endeavor does.

141 posted on 03/22/2007 2:44:21 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I think you've been designated as the go between:) I guess she can't/won't post to me directly:)

Becky


142 posted on 03/22/2007 2:49:02 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I guess so. :~)


143 posted on 03/22/2007 2:52:49 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
So it's either go by myself or don't go at all which is not acceptable for me:)

If I didn't ride alone, I'd never ride. Down at our cabin I have no one to ride with and I always ride alone. I carry a walkie talkie with me (no cell phone service down there) and if anything happens my husband would come and get me.

144 posted on 03/22/2007 3:03:11 PM PDT by estrogen (I)
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To: estrogen

I'm so glad someone understands:)

I've told my husband if I'm not back by such and such time just look for the buzzards circling and come get me:)

You know, I know it's not a laughing matter or the safest thing, but what else can you do.

Becky


145 posted on 03/22/2007 3:07:25 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

You might have good luck and good range with some of the walkie talkies that are out now... we have a set. It would be good to carry somethin' with ya.


146 posted on 03/22/2007 3:11:09 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Would they work if I was down in a valley between two hills? I don't think as the crow flies I'm ever more then 3-4 miles from home, it's just it's all hills and thick woods.

Becky


147 posted on 03/22/2007 3:14:56 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

They're line of sight, but it'd be worth a shot to know where you can get signal and where you can't. At least you're better off for part of the time.


148 posted on 03/22/2007 3:16:59 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Wherever my husband got these walkie talkies (they weren't cheap) I've never had a problem talking to him. If he doesn't hear from me in more than an hour and a half he gets on his four wheeler and starts looking for me.

One of the funniest was when Waylon dumped me (my fault) and I called him on the walkies and he said "where are you?" I answered by the food plot ( we have 8 food plots over 83 acres) and he said duh? It took him a while to find me. In the meantime Waylon was running back and forth in the field like a horse in a shooting gallery having the time of his life. When hubby finally found me Waylon walked right up to his four wheeler and I haltered him......maybe you had to be there , but it was funny.

149 posted on 03/22/2007 3:32:38 PM PDT by estrogen (I)
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To: warsaw44
Not only is there a specialty in equine litigation, but there's also a full time specialty just in doing the legal work to syndicate stallions!

It helps if you're in horse country. Of course, the big horse lawyering area is Kentucky (and I used to consult with a Kentucky attorney when I had a big case) but there was plenty of horse-related stuff in Georgia. Still is, so far as I know.

150 posted on 03/22/2007 3:42:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: estrogen

It's funny because you weren't hurt :~) I bet you were madder than a hornet till he was caught :~)


151 posted on 03/22/2007 3:43:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; woodbutcher; HairOfTheDog
Let us have peace! < g >

I think both sides here have a point.

It's a little unfair to condemn all showjumping as very bad for horses' legs . . . that's a bit of an overstatement. Out of condition horses get injured, and sometimes one just has bad luck (vide Barbaro). But a sensible conditioning program and good preventive vet care, shoeing, etc. prevent a lot of injuries, and many show horses have long careers quite sound.

Another overstatement was the idea that show horses are kept confined and not worked sufficiently to avoid injury. Reputable show horse owners and riders DO take excellent care of their horses. They do turn them out (properly protected with UV sheets) and make sure they're in shape for their work.

And most do NOT just discard them if they're past work. Sometimes they're perfectly useful for ponying, hacking, or as a school horse. I was lucky enough to ride a couple of Earl "Red" Fraser's retired show horses back in the day, wow was that amazing. A savvy old show hunter or jumper can teach you a lot!

Of course there are bad owners who treat their horses like inanimate objects, who make them stand in stalls all day long, don't condition them, etc. But we don't judge the entire group by the bad apples. . . we'd all be in trouble if everybody did that.

Woodbutcher's response was a bit strong, but on the other hand if you substitute "racehorse" for "showhorse", the complaint sounded a lot like "all racing is bad, all racehorses are abused, Barbaro should never have been raced" and so forth. We went through all that when Barbaro was hurt, and while there are racehorse owners who don't treat their animals right, Barbaro's owners are not in that category. So it may have been a natural reaction to fly off the handle a little at what seemed like a blanket condemnation of all hunter/jumper owners.

(Don't ask me about rodeo . . . I only worked one summer on a ranch out West!)

152 posted on 03/22/2007 3:54:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
And most do NOT just discard them if they're past work. Sometimes they're perfectly useful for ponying, hacking, or as a school horse. I was lucky enough to ride a couple of Earl "Red" Fraser's retired show horses back in the day, wow was that amazing. A savvy old show hunter or jumper can teach you a lot!



Right on.

That is why so many of them end up equitation horses.

They have seen everything and done everything that the show ring has to offer, so they don't shy or do stupid things that make the equitation rider look bad.

Yeah. A little strong. But that is me. It is a hot button for me when people knock a sport that I and my family have enjoyed for so many years.

I am done with this, I think, so I would like to make one more point in closing:

If we do not wish to lose our freedom, we must learn to tolerate our neighbor's right to freedom even though he might express that freedom in a manner we consider to be eccentric.

That goes in spades for our horse sports, as this will be the next big target for the AR's.

They already have changed everything from circus acts to dog ownership. You can bet that the horse sports will suffer their attention before long.

It would be smart for none of us to publicly disparage the other person's sport.

It is proper to correct or punish abuse, but not to criticize an entire sport.
153 posted on 03/22/2007 4:09:56 PM PDT by woodbutcher
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To: AnAmericanMother

I agree I was generalizing.

In my mind I was thinking of the average horse owners that I've run into at the stables around here. not the high dollar professionals. OK. IMO, there are more average horse owners vs. the pros.

And I agree that most injuries come from out of condition horses. BUT, around here, I just never get the impression that these average horse owners condition enough, hence so many lame jumping horses, endurance horses, barrel horses, etc...

I think the type of jumping you do, cross country, makes more sense then just going around an arena jumping for the sake of jumping. JMO. But then I don't care for much arena work. But I also think any jumping even for a conditioned horse is high impact, and will wear a horses joints down quicker, but there is no way for either side to prove either way. That's going to be all opinion.

After my initial response, I was just responding in kind to what IMO, was way overboard reaction...:)

I hope I did not offend you AAM...I didn't mean to offend anyone...just stating my opinion. But I will say to you, I have no doubt that your horse is one of the ones that is most likely properly conditioned, or you wouldn't jump her till she was.

Peace:)

Becky


154 posted on 03/22/2007 4:17:50 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: CindyDawg

I hate horse racing too. Between the accidents and the ex-racers that I've worked with, bah!


155 posted on 03/22/2007 6:54:55 PM PDT by Beaker (Don't Panic)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
You didn't offend me at all!

I think that the worst problems come from average horse owners who don't know what they're doing - they jump their horses too high, on poorly prepared ground, don't condition, and don't understand how to rate a horse between the jumps (that's the number one skill you have to learn). They ride their horses in a couple of shows, enter all the big fence classes, and then wonder why the poor critter pulls up lame. And folks who aren't in that sport think that's a "typical" show jumper.

The real pros aren't that careless. When you spend 100 grand or up on a good show jumper or hunter, you DON'T want him carelessly injured or chronicly lame. If you've put that sort of money into a horse, you hire a professional trainer who sets detailed conditioning and training schedules and watches the horses like a hawk. Horse training has gone high tech, just like track and field or baseball or anything else for humans . . .

My trainer is somewhere on the middle ground. She's got a couple of high dollar horses, a daughter of *Abdullah and two very nice registered Trakehners, but most of her school horses are middle of the road types although they are very good at what they do. She is famous for finding bargains, making the most of her horses and keeping them in splendid shape. Any one of her school horses or ponies can go out for a day with the hounds, keep up reasonably well, and not be completely blown out and soaked with sweat at the end of the day.

I disagree with you about arena versus cross country -- for every hour you're on a cross country course, you had better spend a couple of hours in the ring. The arena is where you hone your technique, make sure you and your horse understand each other, and practice pacing and turning techniques in a controlled environment. You practice there because when you hit an arena jump, it falls down! Most obstacles on a cross country course are built of telephone poles and dirt, and when you hit them they DON'T move.

Also, a good arena is well drained, tilled, and groomed to provide the best possible footing. . . . the ground is softer and more stable than most footing cross country. The worst fall I have taken on Gracie involved an unexpected muddy patch while cantering up a slope out hunting -- her legs shot out from under her and we BOTH went down in a heap! Just had the breath knocked out of us, nobody was hurt, but she's never lost her footing in the ring, even when her toes were a little long.

One thing I've noticed about Western riders is that a lot of the arenas that they use are way smaller than ours -- wouldn't be room for us to negotiate jumping turns at speed in a ring as small as some people use. And tight turns do put a lot of stress on a horse's legs . . .

156 posted on 03/22/2007 7:55:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: warsaw44
Forgot to comment on the cows! < MOO! >

I worked one summer on a dairy farm, another on a cattle ranch. The whole idea with the beef cattle was to leave them alone to graze and get fat, so I didn't have much contact with them, I just rode and mended fence on a cute little QH roping horse (who got a snaffle bit and dressage training that summer - even though the cowboys laughed at me!) But I did not like the Holstein dairy cows and they did not like me . . . they struck me as both malevolent and stupid. OTOH, I loved the Jerseys, they were very sweet tempered and affectionate and we got along just fine. I never did work with Galloways - aren't they a Lowland Scots breed?

157 posted on 03/22/2007 8:09:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/galloway/index.htm


Interesting.

The cow with the huge white midsection.

I had cattle when I had so many horses. I raised my own alfalfa hay. If it got rained on or for some other reason did not make horse hay, I put it in the cow barn.

I do not like cattle, but they are of great help to a horse farm. They graze more evenly and greatly improve the pasture.

They will eat the tough woody grass that the horse will not and that cuts way down on mowing.

As for ring work, I hate it. I am a big believer in the horse finding his own spot. Counting strides is not my bag.

Let the horse have a few wrecks and he will count his own strides.

I am well aware of the new methods. But I can inspect a ring in about two rounds. By that time, I have seen all I need to see and I am ready to go out.


I like to ride the kind of horse that starts measuring his strides 6 or 8 strides from the fence.
158 posted on 03/22/2007 8:29:14 PM PDT by woodbutcher
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To: AnAmericanMother

I should have made the point that the belted Galloway is a strain within the breed. Not all are belted, far from it.


159 posted on 03/22/2007 8:38:29 PM PDT by woodbutcher
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To: AnAmericanMother
"syndicate stallions"

Holy Cow - Horses involved with the mob?
LOL! I've no clue about horses even though my mother has two of them. They drive me nuts though. We have a huge amount of land and I'd rather see cows grazing rather than two ' piggish ' horses tearing up the fields. What a mess those fields are.
I think the Galloways didn't come to the US until sometime after WWII. I really dont know where they originated but they are beautiful animals. I worked with Jerseys as well. Very friendly.
I rode a bicycle to and from work and along the last 1/2 mile was a stretch of filed where older calfs would be held. One summer a calf befriended me. She began mooing at me whenever I rode by, then started running along the fence as I biked by. Eventually she'd be waiting for me at the edge of the field in the morning and as soon as I'd come into view she'd start her routine: running along keeping up with the bike and mooing her head off. I got into the habit of stopping after work to give her something to eat or just play with her.
I really liked those cows. Herding them into the fields after the morning milking was a favorite chore of mine.
160 posted on 03/22/2007 9:49:17 PM PDT by warsaw44
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