It was that period when Steines had a sit-down with HKS and most of the interview was head shot after head shot in some living room environment, with HKS in front of a window looking out on the ocean.
Wracking my brain here, but it was right around funeral time, but can't recall if it was just before or just after. HKS was looking very dark (more than usual) and choosing his words very carefully, very slowly. Again, it was more than usual and all the camera angles were ECU's on his face and Steines's.
He shouldn't have chosen those words.