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To: kipita
Interesting solution--and situation. A culture which focuses on responsibility cannot abdicate that responsibility every time something goes wrong, and there is a lot of that going on. Therein lies the difficulty.

The other problem is that the PC infection of the scientific community is global, funded by foundations which endow university chairs, fund research grants, and decry industry. Corporations contribute to the foundations to show how 'environmentally aware' they are, and government funding rounds out the budget.

There is no place to run, but some will be less affected than others.

Not, mind you, by the alleged problems, so much as by the imposition of 'solutions' based on junk science.

The answer to that is education, of ones' self, of entire communities, and especially of children to debunk the nonsense, to be able to understand the flaws in logic which allow those with an agenda to distort reality to their ends, no matter what side of an issue they might be on.

You will need that no matter where you are.

It is only in the past two generations that America has really strayed from familial heierarchies and the "mobile" concept has taken hold. I have to wonder if that was not promoted to undermine family structure to leave a vacumn for the socialists to try to sieze control of children. My wife is American Indian, so family ties are strong on her side, and on my side we date back to early colonial times in the Americas, and family remains important there as well (old families, not old money). There is no substitute for the support we can give our children and grand (and great-grand) children, nor for the support they can give to us. It is a prized system as old as people, and the most basic unit of government, one which needs little interference. We take care of our own.

I can see why you would be attracted to a lifestyle which is largely disappearing from the American cultural landscape, but regret that more here are not rediscovering it.

Perhaps we can keep the paradigm alive until the pendulum swings back.

6 posted on 12/17/2006 2:25:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Wow, I strongly agree with what you've said and you've expressed it much better than I probably could. So, I'll only comment on what I think I know, Spain and Europe.

It is only in the past two generations that America has really strayed from familial heierarchies and the "mobile" concept has taken hold.

This is also happening in the North of Spain (more "Deal focused") while the South of Spain ("Relationship focused") hasn't really been affected. The same can be said of northern Europe (very Deal focused) vs. southern Europe (less Deal focused). In Europe, I think it's more post-Religious modernism that is to blame than politics. However, there may be a trend towards viewing Religion as "philosophy" rather then "rules based", so conservatism my be resurrected. I think that's why the Pope is "taking action" to compare what Christian "philosophy" has contributed to humanity vs. Islam. Europe is also becoming center-Right so maybe there's hope.

7 posted on 12/17/2006 3:24:57 AM PST by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility------Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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