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How Private Property Saved the Pilgrims
The Hoover Digest (The Hoover Institution's r ^ | Jan. 1999 | Tom Bethell

Posted on 11/18/2006 12:29:36 PM PST by FreeKeys

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21 posted on 11/18/2006 9:46:07 PM PST by stylecouncilor
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22 posted on 11/18/2006 10:37:26 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: FreeKeys

Does anyone know where transcripts of Bradford's diaries themselves might be found? Primary source materials are far more useful in debates than documents that merely cite them.


23 posted on 11/18/2006 11:01:17 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Insights/plymouth_experiment.htm

In the interest of bandwidth, I am posting the link to an excellent article. Kim is very high on my list of superlative writers (Michael Kelly was my #1 favorite, until his death in Iraq) Hmmm, MK, Sowell and Kim Weissman i think would be my top three.
Truly a great thinker and writer. I advise looking up many more of his articles, whatever is left online after Congress Action got taken down.


24 posted on 11/19/2006 6:13:18 AM PST by Shimmer128
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To: FreeKeys

Even Lenin figured out that it doesn't work.


25 posted on 11/19/2006 9:31:05 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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ping, good read


26 posted on 11/20/2006 3:20:42 AM PST by Nailbiter
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A Soviet 'Thanksgiving' (if you werent a Party Members...)

Some half rotten potato

Rotten meat or 'mystery meat' sausage

A bottle of state underwritten Vodka (the government adopted opiate of the masses....)



Everyone had money but little/nothing to spend it on.




All the Commie Wannabees seem to have a collective amnesia/willful ignorance about what the 'workers paradise' in the USSR was like.
27 posted on 11/20/2006 3:30:21 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: supercat
Does anyone know where transcripts of Bradford's diaries themselves might be found? Primary source materials are far more useful in debates than documents that merely cite them.

He wrote a JOURNAL for the family - all in one book. When it was finally found in the late 1800's (in the private library of the Bishop of London) and brought back to Plymouth - it was printed, as Bradford wrote it. (The original is in the Plymouth Hall Museum) I have one of late 1800's edition, titled: "The Bradford History".

Gradually, it became 'lost' again, in that it was out of print for another 50 years or so. It was republished in 1952 and has been in print ever since, available from many sources, including Amazon, both in hard and paperback.

This book IS the source...along with the first book that Bradford and Winslow wrote and sent back to England that first spring to be published as "Mourt's Relations" -

As a descendant of Governor Bradford (7th great-great granddaughter) and many others from the Mayflower, I have spent decades researching their remarkable adventure - and as a writer, have published articles for decades, trying to separate fact from fiction about them. The hardest to educate is the educators. Even this year, magazine, newspaper and TV articles proclaim that they very likely did NOT have turkey that first Thanksgiving - and there are certainly no records of it.

Duh. Only in Bradford's own eye witness account, for one. He wrote about the men going out and getting plentiful fowl, "including wilde turkey" of which they took many.

Now a great grandmother, I had all but given up on the true story of original Pilgrims being told. But I was mighty surprised this week to watch, on the History Channel, an amazingly faithful movie: "Desperate Crossing" - Top notch production, photography, casting. And it follows Bradford's Journal as faithfully as I have ever seen a movie stick to a book. They use the Bradford character as narrator - telling his story, as he wrote it.

If you want the most faithful example yet done of that hardy band of people who, unlike those before and after them, came to this new land in search of a place to live in freedom - not for riches or power - this docudrama is it.

If you want to see a group that felt no compunction to 'convert the heathen savages' but valued them as friends and allies, even admired them, this is the one to see.

It will be shown tomorrow on the History Channel - in my area from 8 in the morning to 11. "Check your local listings" (The DVD can be purchased on the History Channel website.)

28 posted on 11/22/2006 8:22:54 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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Thanks for the reply; I received a link to Brandford's book in FRmail and bought a copy.


29 posted on 11/22/2006 8:43:40 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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