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Posted on 11/08/2006 10:24:16 AM PST by Keltik
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To: Gaffer; eyespysomething; Keltik
If you go outside his studios to protest, like the Muslims sometimes do, he'll order you a pizza.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:38:37 AM PST
by
SittinYonder
(Why has my tagline gone all haywire?)
To: ssaftler
Where in the United States Constitution do you see that the Federal Government has any role in abortion????
Roe v. Wade was decided by an activist court making a tortured interpretation of the "right to privacy." I happen to be fervently against abortion, but do not believe the federal government has any say in it. It is a matter "reserved to the states."
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To: NittanyLion
Suppose Rudy had all the other issues right, and stated that while he is pro-abortion, the issue rightly belongs at the state level? You're talking about overturning Roe v. Wade. No pro-choice politician could or would support that.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:42:21 AM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: DesScorp
Libertarians are nothing but Democrats that don't want to pay taxes. That's a misperception.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:43:43 AM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: Junior
Maybe so.
But what do you think our Founding Fathers would think of the Libertarian Party today?
Would they be impressed? Or horrified?
To: xcamel
seems the losertarians forgot all about the little guy with the big ears that gave us 8 years of clinton.No, we just remembered the little guy with the big ears who gave us Iraq and the return of LBJ's Great Society (and tried to nominate his secretary to the SCOTUS and tried to give our deepwater ports to Arabs and ignored an invasion from Mexico and...well...you should get the point by now).
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:44:22 AM PST
by
NCSteve
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To: wagglebee
So, why didn't the liberaltarians vote for the GOP yesterday?
for starters, size of government has doubled. Spending has gone up faster than democrats could have ever done on their own.. the border has not been sealed... thats enough of a reason for me .. the GOP forgot what being a conservative is about.
To: Perdogg
What about me, a conservatarian, Am I no longer welcome??? Time to get a "spirit of Goldwater" movement going in the GOP.
To: DesScorp
In the original constitution of the united states, a direct tax on income was prohibited. Libertarians might as well be called Jeffersonians. So you can have Reagan and I'll have Thomas Jefferson.
To: Oberon
You're talking about overturning Roe v. Wade. No pro-choice politician could or would support that. I disagree. A pro-choice constitutionalist would do exactly that. If I were advising Rudy I'd tell him to proclaim that while he's personally pro-choice, it's a matter that should be decided at the state level. And as you noted, that is the functional equivalent of saying you opposed Roe v Wade on moral grounds.
As a pro-lifer, that stance would be good enough for me.
To: Dead Corpse
"I'm sorry, but did the Executive office lose the Veto power sometime in the last 6 years?" Quick name me the times a President vetoed his own party's legislation.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:46:15 AM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
To: All
Hmm, let's look at some of the numbers (I have been).
Take OH, Dewine lost with no Libertarian/Independent candidate in the race. Chuck Blasdel lost with no Libertarian/Independent candidate in the race. Craig Foltin lost with no Libertarian/Independent candidate in the race. Joy Padgett lost with no Libertarian/Independent candidate in the race.
You could have an argument on Jim Talent's race in Missouri and Burns' race in Montana, but Santorum and Chafee lost with no Libertarian/Independent candidate in the race.
The majority of the races that Republicans lost seats in did not have a Libertarian/Independent candidate. This was just the Republicans beating themselves, as Boortz stated.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:49:27 AM PST
by
looscnnn
("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
To: Arkinsaw
I guess we gotta vote for somebody else next time since our votes aren't welcome.
You wanna give these ungrateful fat pork barrel spending GOP's something to cry about?? I say the libertarians do a second protest vote in 2008 and bite the bullet and vote for Hillary, just to enjoy them cry about it... maybe then they will be all for smaller government, spending cuts and sealing up the border.... with that in mind the issue of abortion starts not to matter anymore does it??
To: SittinYonder
Well, I'd hope so! To him it's all a wonderful joke he's perpetrated on the rest of us. He's no more conservative OR Libertarian than Nancy Pelosi. He's found the formula to get and stay wealthy, off the hopes of conservatives and libertarians. He'd sell his mother down the stream for a buck. Have you ever heard him talk about his parents before 9/11 and his recent need to identify with the military however vicariously? Call him and ask about it. Ask him if he ever called them drunks or ever said anything about his father that was good before he became a syndicated host.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:50:14 AM PST
by
Gaffer
To: wagglebee
So, why didn't the liberaltarians vote for the GOP yesterday? This one did, with the single exception of Kyl.
To: NittanyLion
I disagree. A pro-choice constitutionalist would do exactly that. ...if he were acting only according to principle. If Rudy Giuliani took that stance in the real world, however, the howls of outrage would be heard to the ends of the earth, he would be burned in effigy in Ithaca (City of Evil), and Susan Estrich would issue a fatwa against him.
None of which would particularly bother me, but Roe v. Wade is so symbolic to feminism and liberalism, any support for overturning it would be construed as being anti-choice, regardless of the principles behind such a stance.
If I thought a vote for a pro-choice candidate might actually result in the overturning of Roe v. Wade, I'd have to think about it...I'd have to think long and hard.
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posted on
11/08/2006 11:52:42 AM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: Oberon
...if he were acting only according to principle. If Rudy Giuliani took that stance in the real world, however, the howls of outrage would be heard to the ends of the earth, he would be burned in effigy in Ithaca (City of Evil), and Susan Estrich would issue a fatwa against him. I think an articulate politician could make the case in a convincing enough fashion that it would satisfy the GOP and most independents.
To: AnotherUnixGeek
"GLUM Republicans might turn their attention to the Libertarian Party to vent their anger. Libertarians are a generally Republican-leaning constituency, but over the last few years, their discontent has grown plain. It isn't just the war, which some libertarians supported, but the corruption and insider dealing, and particularly the massive expansion of spending. Mr Bush's much-vaunted prescription drug benefit for seniors, they fume, has opened up another gaping hole in America's fiscal situation, while the only issue that really seemed to energise congress was passing special laws to keep a brain-damaged woman on life support."
and the GOP wonders why it lost??? we are sick of hearing about abortion, brain-dead vegetables on life support, burning the flag bans, while the GOP cannot get its act together long enough to reduce the size of government, cut spending across the board ... come on, how stupid is the GOP to really be blaming the libertarians for the GOP loss the GOP brought upon themselves... heres a clue GOP, start acting like conservatives and fix it.
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