Gartner: Apple should quit hardware business

ZDNet UK ^ | October 18, 2006, 16:55 BST | Andrew Donoghue

[Echo Talon]

Larger picture, still WIP

[antiRepublicrat]

have fun changing the processor in the Mac Pro. :)

Have fun changing the processor in the Dell, as neither are meant to be hobby machines.

BTW, I've had a lot of PCs, starting with a 486 OEM that through the years and several processors eventually became an Athlon frankenbox (the only thing original left was eventually the keyboard). I have never just switched a processor, as every upgrade came with a necessary mobo upgrade as well.

[Echo Talon]

ave fun changing the processor in the Dell, as neither are meant to be hobby machines.

easy to do, its all open...

Im seriously thinking about upgrading this CPU(only) its a Athlon 3500+(single core) and I could put in a Athlon X2(Dual Core) for pretty cheep! wouldn't need anything else, the motherboard supports the dual core processor so... pop this one out and walla... dual core...

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - OEM $198

I already have a nice aftermarket heatsink that wont be a problem.

[antiRepublicrat]

I do not know how many American workers would be involved

All of the design and engineering is done in the US, manufacturing in Asia. Jonathan Ives would be out of a job though, and it would be hard for him to find anywhere else interesting enough for him to work.

[antiRepublicrat]

That it's a PC means nothing, but the guy has talent. Damn good, except I've never seen one with windows that clean and shiny -- and I've seen a lot of the 60 series.

Oh yes, I don't believe the Pave Hawk normally uses the minigun (although the Blackhawk does sometimes), and MEDEVAC helicopters (it's in the title) have big crosses on them and are not normally armed.

And in the end for a MEDEVAC, you'd think they'd use the UH-60Q MEDEVAC, and not an MH-60G or HH-60G Pave Hawk. But there are so many variations and off-type usage, you never know.

[antiRepublicrat]

wouldn't need anything else, the motherboard supports the dual core processor so

Whenever I swapped it was generally in big leaps, which meant different sockets, including a switch from Intel to AMD. It also usually meant another video card since I went through VLB (remember that?), PCI, AGP and PCI-X. And memory, through FPM, EDO, SDRAM, DDR and DDR2.

[Echo Talon]

yea, i got lucky... if i upgrade(just the cpu) i figure that i could stand this computer an extra year before a total upgrade. (doing that would be nice because by then i could possibly get the new robson tech with my next pc)[like end 2007 1st quarter 2008]

[Echo Talon]

yea, I'm not sure about the model and what its supposed to be equipped with... but dang is that guy awesome... sheesh that thing had to take him a LONG time to make!

[Sam Cree]

I'm not really an expert on computers, but I'm under the impression that Apple hardware is more reliable than Dell's. I'm planning to replace my old Dell with an Apple, but would certainly consider getting another Dell if I thought that the Apple was just a Dell anyway.

'Course there are other reasons than the hardware.

[Swordmaker]

isn't Apple's motto "think different" thats seems to be lost in this crowd. :D you all have been brainwashed. :) iMac this iLife that iMovie the other thing... Jobs cares about ME, ME, ME... LOL

So your definition of "think different" is to join the crowd of lemmings running of the cliff in the Vista...

[Echo Talon]

So your definition of "think different" is to join the crowd of lemmings running of the cliff in the Vista...

LOL! yea, like it doesn't get its share of bashing.