Duke Lacrosse 60 Minutes Broadcast (Live Thread)

CBS News ^ | 10/15/2006 | Locomotive Breath

[Locomotive Breath]

(CBS) The three Duke lacrosse players indicted for a rape they say they didn't commit are indignant over the effect the charges are having on their lives and their families.

In their first interviews, they speak to Ed Bradley this Sunday, Oct. 15, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

[JLS]

I suspect that Cheeks, ie Anyone but Nifong might well get the votes of:

1. Republicans.

2. Black Democrats who are offened at being played.

3. Anyone with a sense of justice.

I suspect Nifong will get the votes of:

1. Racist blacks.

2. Men hating leftists.

3. Hard core Dims.

The question is which group is bigger in Durham and will turn out.

[fabriclady]

""We had a lot of irate, irate Republicans who couldn't vote for district attorney"

The voters of Durham, black & white, best think twice before they cast a vote for Mike Nifong. Any one of them could be his next target. He has proved he can indict a ham sandwich as they always say. He can also indict any resident of Durham. Think about it.

North Carolina is my home and I can't wait for election day so I can vote.

[Locomotive Breath]

Your mouth to God's ear.

[Locomotive Breath]

We're old enough to have read that in school. They don't do that any more. After all, Melville is a dead white male.

[Pharmboy]

Amen, Brother.

[Sue Perkick]

Thanks for the sample ballot. I see how it's set up now. I also see the dilemma. I hope people will be disgusted enough to mark Cheeks name. I'm thinking Monks & snowballs probably have a lot in common. Actually I kind of wish he had just stayed out of it. I don't like a 3 way. Splits the vote too much. I'd like to have seen what would have happened in the primary had it just been Freda & Fonger.

[RecallMoran]

Nifong is obviously under a lot of pressure to dump this case. I suppose there is still a possibility but of course he has to hold on until after the election. If he loses then it's a no brainer to stop the hoax. If he wins, he either has achieved his goal and drops it to avoid the train wreck heading his way or he considers the win a validation of his position. Since he is obviously insane, he'll probably pick the latter.

[RecallMoran]

Y'all have seen this right? The Duke board of governors:
Note David Rodham Gergen. John Mack is also an interesting character.

Mrs. Anne H Bass
1801 Deepdale Drive
Fort Worth, TX 76107

Bruce Karsh
1201 Tower Grove Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

Dr. Uwe E. Reinhardt
reinhard@princeton.edu

Daniel T. Blue, Jr
Thigpen, Blue, Stephens, & Fellers
205 Fayetteville Street Mall
Suite 300
Raleigh, NC 27601
Phone: (919) 833-1931 Fax: (919) 833-8009

Kirkland, Rebecca T., M.D.
rebeccak@bcm.tmc.edu

Robert C. Richardson
rcr2@cornell.edu
PHONE: (607)255-7200 (607)255-6423

Office of the Coward
President Richard H. Brodhead
Duke University
207 Allen Building
Box 90001
Durham, North Carolina 27708-0001
Telephone: (919) 684-2424
Fax: (919) 684-3050
mailto:president@duke.edu

JJ Kiser , III
PO Box 1799
Pawleys Island, SC 29585

Mr. David M. Rubenstein
1001 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20004-2505
United States
P 202 729 5626
F 202 347 1818

Dr. Paula Phillips Burger
mailto:ppburger@jhu.edu
(410) 516-8382 p
(410) 516-4100 f

Mrs. Carol Louise Anspach Kohn
cookie@anstrav.com

ROBERT S. SAUNDERS, JR.
saunders@phy.duke.edu
2424 Erwin Rd, Suite 302
Durham, NC 27705

Mrs. Paula Hannaway Crown
Henry Crown & Company
222 N La Slle St Ste 2000
Chicago, IL 60601

Ms. Kathryn A. Laidlaw
The Parthenon Group
200 State St.
Boston, MA 02109
Tel: 617.478.4646
katie.laidlaw@inspire-inc.org

Mr. Alan D. Schwartz
383 Madison Avenue
New York, New York 10179

The Hon. Christine M. Durham
450 South State
P.O. Box 140210
Salt Lake City, UT 84114-0210
Tel: (801) 238-7945 Fax: (801) 238-7980

Mr. John J. Mack
91 Sunset Lane
Rye, NY 10580

Rev Charles M. Smith
PO Box 10955
Raleigh, NC 27605
E-mail: cmsmith@nccumc.org
Phone: (919) 832-9560
Fax: (919) 834-7989

Mr. Frank E. Emory, Jr
Bank of America Plaza, Suite 3500
101 South Tryon Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28280
(704) 378-4708 Phone
(704) 331-4222 Fax

Dr. Ernest Mario
25 HASLET Ave
PRINCETON, NJ 08540

Mrs. Susan M. Stalnecker
11 Carriage Rd
Greenville, DE 19807

Ms. Robin A. Ferracone
(Still Hunting)

Bishop J Lawrence Mccleskey
4908 Colonial Drive Suite 108
Columbia, SC 29203-6000
Phone: (803) 786-9486
Fax: (803) 754-9327
Email: bishop@umcsc.org

Mr. Robert K Steel
85 Broad St
New York, NY 10004

Mr. David Gergen
124 Mt. Auburn - Suite 165-153
Canbridge, MA 02138
Tel: 617-496-1982
Fax: 617-496-7301
email: david_gergen@ksg.harvard.edu

Mr. William P. Miller
Mailing Address:
PO Box 1550
High Point, NC 27261
Phone: 336-889-8733
Fax: 336-885-1280

Mr. James L. Vincent
7 AUDUBON Rd
WESTON, MA 02493

Dr. Thomas M. Gorrie
71 Shore Drive W
Pennington, NJ 08534

Ms. Nancy A. Nasher
P.O. Box 829007
Dallas, TX, 75382-9007
Phone Number (214) 369-1234

Mr. Anthony Vitarelli
http://18to24bracket.com/?page_id=2 <---Mr. Vitarelli's blog?
http://www.essayeditors.com/index.php?page=bios <---- er....blogs?
avitarelli@essayeditors.com

Mrs. Janet Hill
10300 Walker Lake Dr
Great Falls, VA 22066

Dr. Clarence G. Newsome
118 East South St.
Raleigh N.C. 27601
919-546-8300
cnewsome@shawu.edu

Mr. Karl M. von der Heyden
15 Khakum Wood Rd
Greenwich, CT 06831

Mr. Kenneth W. Hubbard
36 FRENCH Rd
GREENWICH, CT 06831

Mr. G. Richard Wagoner, Jr
300 RENAISSANCE CENTER
DETROIT, MI 48265

Dr. Kimberly J. Jenkins
kjenkins@highway1.org

Dr. Lewis T. Williams
951 Gateway Boulevard
South San Francisco, CA, 94080, United States
Telephone: +1-650-624-5900
Fax Number: +1-650-624-5901
E-mail: rusty_williams@fiveprime.net

[Locomotive Breath]

I'm worried about an outcome like this

Nifong: 49%
Cheek: 48%
Monks: 3%

51% don't want Nifong but he wins anyway. That's why Monks is a spoiler if he divides the vote even a little.

I can see how a DEM who doesn't like Nifong, but not used to voting anything but a straight party ticket, would vote straight DEM and then check the UNA Cheek. This would spoil the ballot and lose Cheek a vote. There are a lot of ways where Nifong wins with a minority of votes.

[Locomotive Breath]

All reports are that he has an obsessive personality and, if given the opportunity, will follow it to the bitter end just to try and prove he is right.

[Sue Perkick]

I'm concerned about that too. Monks could be problematic if they actually take the time to write his name in & check the box. A lot of people have enough trouble as it is just figuring out HOW to vote. Some of them find punch cards overwhelming.

[Fido969]

Melville is a dead white male.

Great white whale by a dead white male.

[Locomotive Breath]

I hope having to remember and write down his name will limit the Monks vote.

[Locomotive Breath]

I just KNEW someone would say that.

[Constitutions Grandchild]

Yeah, I guess you're right. I have a library at home full of all the classics and fine literature of my youth (we call it the den to keep from sounding like snobs). If I could have gotten my son to read 1/10th of the books in that room, he'd be an Einstein. But, no, the computer's the thing. It's in there, too.

[Dukie07]

Have we determined that a simple majority wins? (forgive me, I missed it if the answer was posted earlier)

[Locomotive Breath]

If you don't mind me going all picky on you (after all I used to be an academic), it's a plurality (i.e. the most votes), even if you don't get a majority (i.e. >50%).

The real question is how much of a plurality do you have to get to avoid a run off. In the primary it was 40%.

If one Party candidate files they move to the Nov Ballot, no primary.

If two Party candidates file, they compete in the primary, winner moves to Nov Ballot.

If three or more Party candidates file, they compete in the primary and the winner moves to the Nov Ballot—MAYBE. To move directly to Nov, the winner in this case must receive a SUBSTANTIAL PLURALITY or the second place candidate can, in writing, request a second primary. Substantial Plurality is more than 40% of the total votes cast for that race.

Rules for winning or moving to the November Ballot

I don't see a similar release for the general election. I think Ken H posted the answer for the general election but I can't remember it now.

[Locomotive Breath]

A den of literature?

[Jezebelle]

Gag me.

[Jezebelle]

You must be kidding, Sue! Do the right thing, without regard to skin color? A university, bastions of politically correct social engineering that they are, stand up for three white boys, regardless of the fact that they were that university's own students, against a BLACK FEMALE???