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Duke Lacrosse 60 Minutes Broadcast (Live Thread)
CBS News ^ | 10/15/2006 | Locomotive Breath

Posted on 10/15/2006 5:52:10 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath

(CBS) The three Duke lacrosse players indicted for a rape they say they didn't commit are indignant over the effect the charges are having on their lives and their families.

In their first interviews, they speak to Ed Bradley this Sunday, Oct. 15, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durham; durhamdirtbag; nifong
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To: ltc8k6

That would be wonderful if it happens, but I'm not counting on it. What would be the incentive for someone to do that? What would be the upside for that person? Nobody in the DA's office is going to confront or side-step Liefong for fear of very probable backlash from him. The DPD? Who? Shelton, maybe? I don't think he has enough rank to do it. It seems like it would have to either come down from the local judiciary (fat chance), or politically from the state house. I doubt if even the chief of police could stop Liefong's freight train. If Liefong dismisses, it'll be after the election (which he will likely win) and it will be because he wants to bail on it and will use Mangum as his scapegoat.


1,081 posted on 10/16/2006 11:49:17 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

LOL! Yes, what the two have in common is that they tell lies that are obvious and feeble lies that are seen through and impeached right there on the spot. Travis says this or that, when yesterday or three hours earlier he said the opposite, just like BB: "We are cutting their legs off on the outskirts of Baghdad. They cannot come here because we are stabbing their hearts and slashing out their eyes in the desert. Their war machinery is broken and lays in pieces in the desert. We are smashing them and cutting them." Then an American tank rolls by on camera, or our guys are seen in the background waving.

I miss BB. :> He used to be on at around 3am or so, so we recorded the news all night so we could watch him the next day.


1,082 posted on 10/16/2006 11:57:16 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: pepperhead

Oh, I didn't know she did that! Well, I would have stopped watching her sooner had I known that. I never was a regular viewer of hers anyway.


1,083 posted on 10/16/2006 11:59:14 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Howlin

That's what I say. Does he really expect people to believe that one anymore than any of his other BS?


1,084 posted on 10/17/2006 12:03:18 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: luv2ski

.....and the ever-present empty milk carton placed back in the fridge - empty except for about 4 drops.


1,085 posted on 10/17/2006 12:09:48 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: CondorFlight

I have seen Jason Whitlock about various sports issues and I think on ESPN Sportreporter show? He has certainly risen greatly in credibility with me with his comments. He is really a solid thinker.


1,086 posted on 10/17/2006 12:23:28 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Howlin

As I remember the timing, her dad did not see her until after her pimp had time to beat her for losing his money. I really think both the Dad and maybe even Nifong saw her beat up a day or so later which added to their early belief in her story.

Her dad apparently is clueless about what she is and Nifong apparently is too. So from Nifong's point of view for a week or so after the party he thinks his case is:

1. The Mangum's statement and IDs.

2. DNA that will match some perp.

3. Reports of her obvious injuries from Duke ER.

That would be a very strong case. Of course he is too dumb to imagine that she might be a lying hooker and he will not have 2 and 3.

So I think he initially believed Mangum. Then he felt stuck when her story fell apart and at that point became criminal to win the primary.


1,087 posted on 10/17/2006 12:31:49 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Ken H

If Jackson, Sharpton etal. are worried about race treason, this is a great opportunity for them. They can rebuke a white prosecutor here for exploiting a confused young woman to trick black voters into voting for him. They need not rebuke Mangum but call her another victim of Nifong.


1,088 posted on 10/17/2006 12:34:05 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
From an anonymous poster at KC's blog:

A commenter on the talkleft forum posted this:

Two AA columnists are now calling for an end to the case :

Earl Ofari Hutchinson

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/the-danger-of-screaming-r_b_31859.html

Jason Whitlock

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/15774974.htm

I've said this before, but it's worth saying again: Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should be in Durham, N.C., today, promising civil disobedience until the charges are dropped and prosecutor Mike Nifong resigns.

(snip)

Speaking out in support of the wealthy Duke players enhances our credibility when we claim that someone poor and black is being treated unfairly. Poor people need that credibility because they can't afford to make bail, let alone a team of high-priced attorneys.

By remaining silent about this obvious miscarriage of justice, black leadership looks as racist and cowardly as it paints white people who ignore obvious mistreatment of blacks. You follow?

Standing up for Seligmann, Finnerty and Evans would be standing up against injustice, and what we're learning is that injustice recognizes opportunity more than color. In America, there is more opportunity for injustice to visit poor people of color. Their best defense is standing against all injustice, regardless of race.

1:23 AM

1,089 posted on 10/17/2006 1:50:48 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Add Professor Coleman to the list. Cash Michael seems to have thrown in the towel, even though he would like to insulate the AA community from the fall-out.

Perhaps there is a slight, hairline crack forming in the facade.


1,090 posted on 10/17/2006 3:28:26 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Ken H
Lacrosse episode was lame

I can't believe they, and by extension I, pay for this stuff.
1,091 posted on 10/17/2006 3:40:49 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Nifong said that he did NOT watch 60M. I presume that is not a misquote in the article. The words "liar," "incompetent & stupid" and "mentally ill" come to mind.


1,092 posted on 10/17/2006 4:17:53 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Locomotive Breath

Violent crime in city sees four-year high

By Ray Gronberg : The Herald-Sun, Oct 16, 2006 : 11:24 pm ET

DURHAM -- Violent crime in Durham reached a four-year peak in the first half of 2006, despite a sharp reduction in the number of homicides, Police Chief Steve Chalmers told the City Council Monday night.

The increase over the same period in 2005 was driven by jumps in the number of rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults, according to numbers provided by the Durham Police Department. Rapes and assaults were at a four-year high, and the number of robberies was as high as it's been at any time since 2003.

All told, there were 916 violent crimes in the first half of 2006, compared to 678 in the same stretch of 2005, a 35 percent increase.

The good news, as far as Chalmers and other officials were concerned, was that the city's murder rate was down sharply. There were only seven homicides in the in the first half of the year, compared to 18 the year before.

Department figures showed that six major North Carolina cities -- Asheville, Charlotte, Fayetteville, Greensboro, Greenville and Winston-Salem -- had higher murder rates than Durham's. But Durham's rate was still the highest among the Triangle's four main cities, with Raleigh providing the closest competition.

Council members welcomed the news on homicides, but fretted about the jump in other types of violent crime.

"The concern is that with the overall 35 percent increase in violent crime, it's a matter of time before you see that murder rate increasing," Councilman Thomas Stith said. "With that level of increase, do we not still have an environment where our citizens will say, 'I don't feel comfortable, I don't feel safe?'"

The council was also unhappy to hear that a man arrested in connection with last year's quadruple homicide on Alpine Road may have committed the crime only about two weeks after being arrested and charged with a long string of drug offenses. The suspect, Roderick Vernard Duncan, was out on a $100,000 bond after initially being held in lieu of $500,000.

Members said they'd like to push the General Assembly to enact laws mandating tougher bond practices in cases that combine drug and firearms offenses.

Councilmen Howard Clement and Eugene Brown also urged Chalmers to crack down harder on prostitution, comments that followed a weekend that saw officers arrest 14 men and women on a variety of soliciting charges.

Clement said he wants police to make shame an element of their strategy.

"I won't be completely happy with the prostitution situation until we see pictures of the Johns as well as the Jeans in the story," he said. "Something should be done to publicize the pictures."

http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-779251.html


1,093 posted on 10/17/2006 4:29:17 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: xoxoxox
until we see pictures of the Johns as well as the Jeans in the story

Good. Let's see Mangum's appointment book. I'll bet we could recognize more than a few names in Durham government.
1,094 posted on 10/17/2006 4:35:56 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: maggief

Panel discussion is on democracy

Oct 16, 2006 : 8:32 pm ET Herald Sun

DURHAM -- State Sen. Jeanne Lucas, D-Durham, will moderate a panel discussion on the topic "Claiming our Democracy" today at 7 p.m. at White Rock Baptist Church, 3400 Fayetteville St.*

The event is free and open to the public.

The forum is part of a series in which community leaders are invited to lead a discussion of "Covenant with Black America," a book written by public television talk show host Tavis Smiley.

Among the panelists will be Durham Police Chief Steve Chalmers, Judge Elaine Bushfan, John Burness of Duke University, Goldie Byrd of N.C. A&T, author Kevin Jenkins, businessman Ron Roots, businesswoman Sandra Braswell, attorney James "Butch" Williams and Elsie Leak of the state Department of Public Instruction.

http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-779215.html

* White Rock, where the Committee meets- special democratic completed sample ballots anyone?


1,095 posted on 10/17/2006 4:36:13 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: Locomotive Breath

"until we see pictures of the Johns as well as the Jeans in the story"

"Good. Let's see Mangum's appointment book. I'll bet we could recognize more than a few names in Durham government."

Hey, she does Raleigh too. Why does the Governor receive
tens of thousands in campaign contributions from 'strip clubs'?


1,096 posted on 10/17/2006 4:40:48 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: Jezebelle

Just wondering. We received no phone call from the school, our son was not allowed to call us and interrogated for hours by the administration and forced to write a statement, there was no investigation by police, no interrogation of our son by someone bound by the Constitution, we got a phone call to say he was being arrested, made an appointment to do so, had no trial, had a plea recommended by the polygrapher, and received the disposition of the case by mail.

I was just wondering if some judge actually got to hear the case if we'd have gotten the verdict like you hear about your Walgreens prescriptions -- "Your verdict is ready." Just wondering.


1,097 posted on 10/17/2006 4:51:33 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Jezebelle

Grand jury indicts man in quadruple homicide

By BriAnne Dopart : The Herald-Sun,
Oct 17, 2006 : 12:04 am ET

DURHAM -- An admitted drug trafficker was indicted Monday in last year's execution-style quadruple homicide, and District Attorney Mike Nifong said the Breckenridge subdivision slayings were the most senseless act of violence in Durham history.

A news conference called by Nifong and Durham Police Chief Steve Chalmers came 11 months after what authorities labeled drug-related bloodshed and after Chalmers said investigators had "strong leads." The probe remained mostly dormant -- at least in public release of any developments -- since then.

Rodrick Vernard Duncan, 27, was released from jail on a vastly reduced bond just two weeks before he allegedly took part in the mass murders, according to details released at the news conference.

Duncan, who lists a Durham address, was indicted by a grand jury on four counts of first-degree murder, one count of attempted first-degree murder and one count of armed robbery. Chalmers would not say if Duncan was the gunman in the Nov. 19, 2005, slayings at 2222 Alpine Road.

Lennis Harris Jr., 24, LaJuan Coleman, 27, Jamel Holloway, 27, and Jonathan Skinner, 26, were pronounced dead at the scene of what police termed a "drug-motivated homicide." Each was shot in the back of the head. Digital scales, a white powder and a green leafy substance were recovered from the scene, as were a 9 mm handgun, spent shell casings and unfired ammunition.

One man survived the attack with serious gunshot injuries and another jumped through a second-story window to safety. It is The Herald-Sun's policy not to name crime victims.

Duncan is in federal custody awaiting sentencing for a 2005 drug trafficking offense that took place only weeks before the brutal slaying, Chalmers told a roomful of reporters and photographers.

Durham Police investigators arrested Duncan Nov. 4, 2005, and charged him with two counts of drug trafficking by transport; two counts of drug trafficking by possession; two counts of possession of cocaine with the intent to manufacture, sell or deliver; maintaining a vehicle for the sale of drugs; possession of a stolen firearm; possession of marijuana; possession of drug paraphernalia; and resisting, delaying and obstructing a police officer.

Duncan's bond was set at $500,000 at the time of his arrest. It was reduced to $100,000 and he was released Nov. 5.

Nifong said the lower amount was "still a substantial bond" and was not similar to controversial bond reduction issues in recent months that have allowed criminals to get out of jail quickly.

Duncan, Nifong suggested, might have been able to post such a "substantial" bond because he was "a very good customer" of a bondsman.

Once Duncan was released, a federal task force assumed the armed trafficking case and took him into custody on April 5, 2006. Duncan pleaded guilty July 5 to the trafficking charges and is being held in Winston-Salem, police said.

Chalmers said police suspected Duncan of the quadruple slayings for some time before he and Nifong made Monday's announcement. He would not elaborate on when Duncan became a named suspect in the murders.

Early in the investigation, police said the one investigator assigned to the case was pursuing leads aggressively. At Monday's press conference, Chalmers said the investigator got "overwhelmed," so more men were assigned to the case after Jan. 1. However homicide investigator S.W. Vaughan told the Herald-Sun last spring that he was the sole investigator working the case.

In the following months, the department claimed it assigned at least three more investigators to the probe. Still, no new information was released about the case with the exception of a returned search warrant and the autopsies of the four young victims.

Chalmers promised Monday that police would be making additional arrests in the homicides and that the investigation was "ongoing."

Lennis Harris Sr., a fire inspector with the city of Durham and father of one of the slain men, said he was too emotional to speak about the arrest in the case.

"You think you'd be happy," he said, his voice breaking, "but there's just so many emotions."

Attempts to reach parents of the other victims were unsuccessful.

While the investigation into the shocking quadruple homicide in an upscale neighborhood disappeared from headlines in the past several months, the murders hadn't faded from the minds of residents of the Breckenridge subdivision.

A resident who lives a few doors down from 2222 Alpine Road asked not to be named but said she was familiar with three of the victims from going to Durham high schools. Skinner, a Raleigh resident, grew up in Winston-Salem.

The victims she knew were kind people who she believed could not have been involved in the sale of drugs, as search warrants and police news releases have suggested, the resident said.

"I couldn't believe it happened here ... I thought 'Oh, man, that's three doors down!'" She added that she never thought police would solve the case.

Another resident who had the case on her mind and also asked not to be named, said she was both thrilled and surprised to know police had charged someone in the case.

"I thought they were never going to solve it," she said. "I thought it was just a hit, you know?"

http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-779259.html

* Guess if we want to see the DA in action on this one, we will just have to vote for him.


1,098 posted on 10/17/2006 5:01:34 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: xoxoxox
So is this a self help book (good!) or, for want of a better word, a reparations book (bad). Given the cast of characters I guess I know which one.

How hard is this. Here's a receipe for success for white and black people (not original to me).

1. Stay away from drugs

2. Take advantage of all the education you can

3. Don't get knocked up or knock someone up

Do those three things and you'll turn out fine. I'll call these people and tell them they can cancel their meeting.

-------------------

Covenant with Black America

from Amazon

Editorial Reviews

From Booklist

This collection of essays is both a plea and a response to the self-assessed critical circumstances of black America today. Tavis Smiley provides the introduction, touching on the issues he explores as host and interviewer on public television and radio; Cornel West and Haki Madhubuti also provide commentary, tying together the common theme of planning how to address the circumstances faced by black Americans. Marian Wright Edelman offers the statement of purpose introducing the 10 covenants, pledging individual effort in the areas of health care, public education, criminal justice, community-centered policing, affordable neighborhoods, democracy, agriculture, economics, environmental justice, and technology. Among the contributors are Marc H. Morial, Angela Glover Blackwell, and Wade Henderson. Each section offers facts on racial disparities in the U.S.; practical suggestions on what individuals, communities, and the government can do to rectify problems; and other helpful resources. Although specifically aimed at problems and issues facing black America, this work has appeal for all readers interested in social issues that plague the nation as a whole.

Vernon Ford Copyright © American Library Association. All rights reserved



Book Description

Six years' worth of symposiums come together in this rich collection of essays that plot a course for African Americans, explaining how individuals and households can make changes that will immediately improve their circumstances in areas ranging from health and education to crime reduction and financial well-being. Addressing these pressing concerns are contributors Dr. David Satcher, former U.S. surgeon general; Wade Henderson, executive director of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights; Angela Glover Blackwell, founder of the research think tank PolicyLink; and Cornel West, professor of Religion at Princeton University. Each chapter outlines one key issue and provides a list of resources, suggestions for action, and a checklist for what concerned citizens can do to keep their communities progressing socially, politically, and economically. Though the African American community faces devastating social disparities—in which more than 8 million people live in poverty—this celebration of possibility, hope, and strength will help leaders and citizens keep Black America moving forward.
1,099 posted on 10/17/2006 5:01:41 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Cornel West. Didn't he teach at Duke awhile back, along with his chum
Henry Louis Gates, now at Harvard? It seems Henry wanted to explore
his African heritage, and had very expensive DNA testing done. He found
out much to his chagrin, he had more in common with Irish bar maids than
supposed colonial slave-holders. Wonder if Crystal ever explored her back-
ground? Sure the people at the Mangum-Duke DNA project have figured
it out by now.


1,100 posted on 10/17/2006 5:15:16 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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