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To: Mr. Silverback; Hildy
One at a time.....

One you failed to practice from your first post to SQ in the thread. If this is not evidence of you being judgmental (and other things you've whined about, such as being "caustic"), what would be?

I was describing the comments, and not making a judgment about the person. Obviously, you chose to make the interpretation you made to create the strawman for your specious argument that I was making personal attacks. It is textbook stuff.. The comments were totally out of line.

Can you cite any data that shows swing voters ditching the GOP in order to vote for Dems, because the GOP takes the moral positions it does? C'mon, you can do it!

They don't switch, they stay home for the most part, with a sense of disgust. They did so in past elections and will do so again. It;s how we lose elections and the only reason we do....Turn-out. The GOP is not actually taking the position, it is the segment of the base that forces the issue on them. The individual congress critter caves and the rest is history.

Clinton was elected because of disgust on the fiscal side of the Conservative base, and Dole lost because of disgust on the social side. They stay home......Some change their affiliation to independent, but few if any vote democrat. They can't do that.

The most recent gaff was attaching the Internet gambling ban to the Port security Bill. You have no idea what that is going to do to turnout. I say that because the party has not yet acknowledged it as a mistake. This lies with Frist and he's going to pay for it, but he can't see it coming yet. He will, I assure you.

He will indeed.........

I'm afraid that the desire to placate some special issue folks has once again split the base and alienated another segment. You don't win elections this way, and I don't think there is enough time to patch it up.

The turnout is going to be low, and the results will depend on which parties turnout is lower.

It will be interesting to see the finger pointing after it is over. It is going to be a real squeaker, and it did not have to be this way. polls show the Rats have it right now. We will see in four weeks.

Frankly, I can only be disappointed so many times before I may stay home as well....I still have not yet decided on that. Been voting straight tickets since Nixon. This will certainly change now, as a message needs sending. I don't want to kill the party to do it however. I'll decide on election day.

I stayed with this exchange because I wanted to give you a piece of my mind, as we say in the South.

I view most people as animals in pants, and when a person or group cannot admit that they are and continue to believe they are somehow all seeing, knowing and special, it really irks me.

I came to the thread when I saw Hildy [obligatory ping] under attack again. I think she is good folk, and as honest as they come. But she really catches the flack here, especially from fundamentalist Christians who are also just higher animals in pants. Few admit it. Those few I consider rational and I'm able to communicate with on a deeper level and without animosity on the most sensitive topics..

Enjoy your day........

600 posted on 10/15/2006 2:31:14 PM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: Cold Heat
I asked you to porvide evidence to back up your assertion. I provided an article that cited several pieces of solid data. You responded with a tale, a tale that may be true, but without any evidence attached.

Where is your evidence?

609 posted on 10/16/2006 11:27:22 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Cold Heat
Oh, and I forgot this... I was describing the comments, and not making a judgment about the person.

Tappa, tappa, tappa...

610 posted on 10/16/2006 11:28:56 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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