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I personally find the limited transfers and the banned VM parts of the license especially onerous. There are any number of reasons a transfer may be needed (replaced components, upgrades, etc.) and the chances of a false positive are just too good, IMHO.

Furthermore, I keep a copy of Windows running on VMWare, mostly for games, but also for testing, so the no-VM clause in the cheaper versions is a real pain as well.

1 posted on 10/13/2006 7:22:59 AM PDT by Señor Zorro
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I'm going to the bookstore and get a linux OS and run it on the backup and get up to speed. F Microsoft.


2 posted on 10/13/2006 7:26:43 AM PDT by Leisler (Read the Koran, real Islam is not peaceful.)
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don't worry... it'll be circumvented by smarter programmers than the clowns at MS.


4 posted on 10/13/2006 7:32:46 AM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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There are any number of reasons a transfer may be needed (replaced components, upgrades, etc.) and the chances of a false positive are just too good, IMHO.

That's what I'm wondering too. If I upgrade my computer, and reinstall Vista, will that count against the transfer limit?

5 posted on 10/13/2006 7:35:10 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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None of this matters.
Fortune Magazine [!] reports
Apple's working on

putting their OS
on an iPod, configured
to be then plugged in

to any PC
and turn it into a Mac.
This will change the world.
6 posted on 10/13/2006 7:37:02 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Disclaimer: I am a proud Mac user, but I work with Windows XP at the office.

It seems as though Vista is getting increasingly restrictive to the "low-end" users, and more complicated overall in terms of choice versus price point. Why should I have to get power locks and power windows just because I want air conditioning and automatic transmission? Why not offer a standard package with all features for home use, a family pack of the same version, and a business upgrade package that only larger networks would need?


7 posted on 10/13/2006 7:39:08 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959)
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The VM part is to make sure businesses buy the more expensive versions, even where the cheaper ones would do. Lots of businesses rely on VMs to test software and configurations before allowing them into a production environment.


8 posted on 10/13/2006 7:39:24 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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It's hard for me to say this, but Apple must be jumping up and down with glee. I know more than one person who are fed up with Microsoft and are switching to either Linux if they have know-how or to Mac.


10 posted on 10/13/2006 7:40:07 AM PDT by ark_girl
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There are any number of reasons a transfer may be needed

Not to mention DR.

Right now VMware is THE hottest thing in IT. I sell it by the boat load.

14 posted on 10/13/2006 7:46:36 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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I help with a 20,000 node network. This just gave the open source advocates in my department a HUGE boost.


18 posted on 10/13/2006 7:50:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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I just decided that my next workstation will be a Mac. This is fscking rediculous. Macs for my personal machines, Linux for my servers. I'm absolutely sick of Microsoft's Big Brother mentality.


20 posted on 10/13/2006 7:55:12 AM PDT by DesScorp
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Does MS consider Apple's Boot Camp to be a virtual machine?


23 posted on 10/13/2006 8:02:13 AM PDT by Logophile
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Ah yes, Windows Vista . . .

I sense an Apple MacBook Pro in my future!

24 posted on 10/13/2006 8:03:34 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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You guys seem very tech savvy, so maybe you can answer a question I've had for a very long time:
Am I logged onto the Internet?

Thanks.

27 posted on 10/13/2006 8:04:34 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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I personally find the limited transfers and the banned VM parts of the license especially onerous. There are any number of reasons a transfer may be needed (replaced components, upgrades, etc.) and the chances of a false positive are just too good, IMHO.

Apparently one is not allowed to buy a new computer according to MicroSoft.

36 posted on 10/13/2006 8:14:42 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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Wow. Microsoft's legal and marketing guys must be getting paid under the table by some rich Linux guys. I couldn't think of a better way to disenfranchise their customers, giving them a strong motivation to find something else.


38 posted on 10/13/2006 8:18:00 AM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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I am a computer professional and I am hard-pressed to understand any compelling reason for anyone to move from WinXP to Vista - other than strong-arm tactics from MS.

This is bad news for MS. I remember long ago when, as an early-on Mac owner, I first recognized that Apple was in trouble with it's Mac strategy. I was walking through a computer store looking at PCs and Macs and the software offerings for both as well as the interfaces. I thought to myself, "I can't think of a good reason to get a Mac - and I already own one!" My next thought was "Apple is in big trouble if I, someone who loves my Mac, can't think of a good reason to get another one."

I see this Vista thing the same way.


43 posted on 10/13/2006 8:24:41 AM PDT by poindexters brother
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The more Billy messes with the average user, the more market share he's going to lose. He's about to lose me.


48 posted on 10/13/2006 8:38:57 AM PDT by mysterio
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Screw 'em. I'll stick with XP. Anyhow my three current computers run just fine on XP but choke on Vista... which I have downloaded installed and tried out


50 posted on 10/13/2006 8:42:05 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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I can't imagine a reason I would buy vista.First off I don't have a machine powerful enough to run it and second I don't need one.My work computer still happily chugs along with Windows 98,even though Microsoft no longer supports it and my home system is XP SP2.By the time these die they'll probably be on Vista SP2 which will come on my next computer whether I want it or not.
51 posted on 10/13/2006 8:45:11 AM PDT by edchambers (Neocon foot-soldier of the Haliburton death squad)
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This is ridiculous.

What about ugrade machines?

What about serial upgrades where over the course of the years EVERYTHING is swapped out but the case and then you swap the case.

If the OS was $4.99 perhaps. But when the OS costs more than the machine this makes no business sense.

This is what you have when an OS has a monopoloy.


57 posted on 10/13/2006 9:24:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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