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To: Tribune7
Are you saying Gould did not believe that the fossil record had large gaps?

Yes I am. and Gould directly addressed the use you are making of his writings and directly called it a lie.

Gould acknowledged gaps at the species level, but not at higher levels -- the levels now being talked about as "kinds."

Go back to my post on wolves and chihuahuas. That represents a tremendous change in body form, but it can happen in a few human lifetimes. That violates nothing in our understanding of evolution -- every individual is the same species as its parents. But such a change occurring over a few thousand generations would be completely invisible in the fossil record.

What Gould argued is that such "rapid" changes are typical, and the kinds of evolution visible in fossils is not spread evenly over time.

459 posted on 09/23/2006 1:16:58 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138; Tribune7
Yes I am. and Gould directly addressed the use you are making of his writings and directly called it a lie.

Just another thing Tribune7 has failed to absorb just today. You really have to ask, "Does he really not remember ANYTHING?"

Other points from the same post: Darwin was not really much of a gradualist, PE is not saltational, etc. You can look at T7's subsequent posts and see that he trolls for suckers with the same points repudiated there (and elsewhere) again and again. Oh, and of course, Ann Coulter's critics have no specifics, just name-calling. (Right!)

465 posted on 09/23/2006 5:52:50 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: js1138
But such a change occurring over a few thousand generations would be completely invisible in the fossil record. . . What Gould argued is that such "rapid" changes are typical, and the kinds of evolution visible in fossils is not spread evenly over time.

IOW, there is a "gap" in the fossil record and evolution is not gradual. Why not just concede the point. Maybe it is a religious thing with you.

476 posted on 09/23/2006 6:33:05 PM PDT by Tribune7
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