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To: Ken H
Recall what the H-S wrote:

A date-rape drug test reportedly involving a hair sample of the alleged Duke lacrosse victim has turned up negative, one of the defense attorneys said Wednesday.

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Negative results, he [Dr. Shannon Miller] said, don't necessarily mean no substances were used. That's because some drugs can wash out of the body quickly, he said, also citing the importance of the timing of the test.

I call BS on the H-S. The New York Times tried the same thing with DNA evidence. Here is what KC Johnson had to say about the NYT experts:

NYT: Outside experts say it is possible for a rapist to leave no DNA evidence.

KCJ: Who are the "outside experts" who contend it is possible for three men that the accuser said didn't use condoms and who violently raped her "to leave no DNA evidence"? Wilson and Glater don't tell us: I guess we're just supposed to trust their word.

329 posted on 08/31/2006 1:56:04 AM PDT by Ken H
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Attorney: Date-rape drug test negative in lacrosse case

BY WILLIAM F. WEST, The Herald-Sun
August 30, 2006 10:12 pm

DURHAM -- A date-rape drug test reportedly involving a hair sample of the alleged Duke lacrosse victim has turned up negative, one of the defense attorneys said Wednesday.

According to Kirk Osborn, he and fellow defense lawyers learned the result from Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong at a meeting last week with Judge Osmond Smith about the case, in which three lacrosse players are under indictment on charges of sexually assaulting an exotic dancer at an off-campus party in March.

Attempts to obtain comment from Nifong's office were unsuccessful Wednesday.

Osborn told The Herald-Sun he wasn't surprised at the outcome of the test.

"We knew that was going to happen," he said. "It certainly eliminates whatever Mr. Nifong hinted to Newsweek magazine [in April] that they slipped her a date-rape drug."

The dancer says she was attacked when she and another dancer, Kim Roberts, performed at a team party at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., across from Duke's East Campus.

A Durham County grand jury indicted Reade Seligmann, 20; Collin Finnerty, 19; and David Evans, 23, on rape, kidnapping and sexual offense charges. The three players say they are innocent.

Osborn, in court papers in June, cited medical records showing that the accuser gave conflicting accounts about her consumption of alcohol and drugs that day.

He argued in court that the woman:

-- Told one doctor she had used no alcohol or drugs.

-- Told the sexual assault nurse examiner in training that she had had one drink of alcohol and was taking Flexeril, a muscle relaxant.

-- Told another doctor that she was drunk and had consumed "a lot of alcohol."

-- Told a police investigator that she had consumed a 24-ounce bottle of beer and two 22-ounce beers.

Roberts has contended in published reports that when the alleged victim arrived at the party, she was sober, but that when the alleged victim left, she appeared to be under the influence of some substance.

After the party, the alleged victim ended up at a Kroger supermarket.

One of the security guards, Angel Altmon, told The Herald-Sun that when she called police, she told the dispatcher the woman was sitting in a car and was "intoxicated, drunk or something."

"Somebody must have slipped her something, because she wasn't drunk," Altmon told the newspaper. "If she was drunk, I would have smelled something."

Osborn, who represents Seligmann, declined to answer additional questions about the date-rape drug test, except to say he hasn't received a written copy of the report and that Nifong didn't share the news before the meeting with the judge.

The Herald-Sun couldn't reach attorneys Joe Cheshire and Brad Brannon, who represent Evans, for comment Wednesday. Attorney Bill Cotter, who represents Finnerty, said he won't discuss the evidence in the case.

Forensic consultant Shannon Miller, also a physician and associate professor of psychiatry at Wright State University in Ohio, said conducting date-rape drug testing is standard procedure.

Negative results, he said, don't necessarily mean no substances were used. That's because some drugs can wash out of the body quickly, he said, also citing the importance of the timing of the test.

But Miller said the bottom line is that the defense can reach back and cover a fair chunk of time and say, "Look, there were no drugs there."

URL for this article: http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-765602.html

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/480871.html
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"nstead of showing a cab speeding away from the scene of a crime, the tape showed the shoplifter hiding her bags behind her hip, then getting in the backseat and closing the door. Then the cab pulled away from the curb."
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330 posted on 08/31/2006 2:28:35 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Ken H
IIRC, the whole point of a hair sample is that it DOESN'T wash out but, depending on the rate of hair growth, provides a historical timeline of testable substances. For example, that's how they determine whether little kids have been ingesting lead paint and for how long. The date rape drugs wash out into urine so quickly, I'd be really surprised if they were in the system long enough to show up in the hair. But since they tested for it I guess maybe they can.
375 posted on 08/31/2006 7:04:05 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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