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To: Rte66
To me what is odd is that perp put a slip knot on "both" ends. Normally a garrote is not done like that.

But if you were to hog tie someone, then a slipknot would make sense. It is possible that he hog tied her first.

Another thing that amazes me is that think a slipknot is so unique and that many people would not know how to make one.

It is one of the easiest knots to learn and is very commonly used in my opinion.

I have to read the report again about the rope to see how long it was and this would play factor in how it would hold once it is twisted. Also using a rope that is wet would help it stay put.
2,303 posted on 08/25/2006 11:08:21 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Rte66

a garrote is a usually a rope or wire that has a slipknot on each end, put you usually slip a piece of rod into each slipknot and tighten the slipknot down to hold the rods in place. Then you wrap the cord around the neck and twist the cord like you do when you put a wire twist tie on a garbage bag. The handles are used so that you can created tension and hold the tension.

From what I just read....he put a slipknot on each end and place the paint brush handle in one slipknot and then placed the other slipknot over her head and around her neck. Doing it this way would not allow him to use like a typical garrote.

I have to look into it more and read more of the reports. I think I have an idea on how he did it using this method, but it is really odd.


2,311 posted on 08/25/2006 11:21:43 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Does anyone know of a clear picture of the room she was found in? Are there any closely spaced vertical pipes or other vertical structures like 2x4's or something?

The garrote didn't make sense to me either unless:

John found her body. We don't know everything that was found in that room after she was found. We see some pictures and we have his description, and that of Linda Arndt and the autopsy info.

According to transcripts (not second hand news accounts, but transcripts) her wrists were *tied together*. Remember that John was "partially successful" in removing the ligature from her wrists. He tried to untie them some more when he got her upstairs but Linda Arndt stopped him and told him she was dead. Her arms were stiffly held somewhat above her head.

The one tail from the right wrist ligature was 15.5" (I think) and had a double loop knot. Google that knot so you know what it looks like.

One of the tails from the neck ligature was 17" (I think) and was firmly attached to the wooden stick.

If there were two horizontal pipes running up along the wall then try to picture this:

The *unbroken* wooden stick was inserted into the double loops from the wrists' ligature. Then the tail of the neck ligature was looped around the center of the stick between the two loops. (This is why hairs got tangled into it.)

Then the wooden stick is wedged between the two pipes running up along the wall. That holds her arms and upper body in place.

(She is likely facing downwards since the urine covering her panties and jammie bottoms was on the front, not the back.)

Now the whole ligature thing makes sense, does it not? But at some point she "accidentally" dies.

There was no rage. The murderer carefully wrapped her in her white blanket before leaving her, and drew a red heart on her hand.

I'm reading the transcript now (which is giving me the chills) and investigators showed John a picture from that room. There's the blanket, and there's a pink Barbie doll nightie nearby. Not JonBenet's nightie with a picture of Barbie on it. She had a big Barbie doll in the corner of her room that she rarely played with. That doll wore a shiny pink nightie.

John says when he found her that he was pretty much out of his mind at that moment and immediately starting talking to her and trying to untie the knots around her wrist. He didn't even see the ligature around her throat. Who is to say that he didn't pull on that rope/string and that is what caused it to be broken into 3 pieces?

Why was the wooden stick (paintbrush) broken into any pieces at all otherwise? Why would the murderer bother breaking it into three? Not to mention how difficult it would be to make the second break.


2,315 posted on 08/25/2006 11:37:04 PM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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