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Karr Visited Sex-Change Clinic
yahoo.com ^ | 8/19/06 | SUTIN WANNABOVORN
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Karr was eyeing sex change
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | August 20, 2006
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Man who says he killed JonBenet was set for sex change
The Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 8.20.06 | mct
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686643/posts
Boulder columnist tells 9NEWS about conversations with Ramsey suspect (Karr)
KUSA Denver ^ | August 19, 2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686612/posts
Jonbenet Murder Case - Karr set to be deported this evening
The Nation (Thailand) ^ | August 19, 2006
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The Kingdom of Thailand isn't about pedophiles (Tourism vanity)
Posted on 08/19/2006 4:18:44 PM CDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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JonBenet Case Heats Up Boulder, Colo.(John threatens to leave country)
Forbes ^ | 08.19.2006, 04:01 PM | By CHASE SQUIRES ,
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Johnson: Karr may be crazy, but he's not the right man
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8/19/06 | Bill Johnson
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Crucial steps in investigation of Karr didn't get under way until after arrest
Contra Costa Times ^ | 8/19/06 | Kirk Mitchell
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Karr classmate offers theory on ransom-note mystery
Rocky Mountain News ^ | August 19, 2006 | David Montero
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686461/posts
JonBenet's Mom Almost Met With Suspect
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/18/D8JIVM9G0.html ^
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Cell of Polly Klaas' Killer Searched [Ramsey suspect connection/]
Forbes ^ | August 18, 2006 | Associated Press
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The crime scene: What is known [JonBenet Ramsey]
cnn.com ^ | Friday, August 18, 2006; Posted: 2:01 p.m. EDT (18:01 GMT)
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Breaking - Ramsey Case
CNN ^ | 8/18/06 | CNN
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E-mails a portrait of 'my darkness' Messages to CU prof paint a disturbing picture of Karr
RockyMountainNews.Com ^ | 08/18/06 | Todd Hartman and Kevin Vaughan
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Messages to CU prof paint a disturbing picture of Karr
Rocky Mountain News ^ | Aug. 18, 2006 | Rocky Mountain News
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It's tough to verify some aspects of suspect's life (John Mark Karr)
The Seattle Times ^ | August 18, 2006 | Adam Geller
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Karr chloroformed JonBenet, he says
The Australian ^ | 8/18/06 | N/A
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JonBenet Ramsey Murder: Psychic Drawing (1998) vs Karr
The Crime Library ^ | The Crime Library
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Jonbenet Ramsey Murder Suspect Remembered In Hometown For Flashy Car, Marriages To Teens
WSFA-TV Montgomery, AL ^ | 17 Aug 2006 | Alabama AP
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Confession in JonBenet case questioned (Picked her up at school?)
Yahoo ^ | 8/17/06
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Expert: 'Do we have a wack-job or a murderer? (More Holes in JonBenet Confessor's Story)
Rocky Mountain News ^ | August 17, 2006 | Sue Lindsay and Charlie Brennan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685494/posts
Admission by JonBenet-case suspect spurs questions
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 8/17/06 | Keith Coffman
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Legal analyst: Break in (JonBenet) Ramsey case could be Hoax
WTSP TV - Channel 10 ^ | August 17, 2006 | WTSP TV - Channel 10
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The Media Circus
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Man says he drugged, had sex with Ramsey
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, August 17, 2006
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Suspect's life in Sonoma County (John Karr)
The Press Democrat ^ | Aug. 17, 2006 | Kerry Benefield, Lori A. Carter, Robert Digitale
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JonBenet Ramsey D.A.: More Work Needed ("Don't jump to conclusions")
AP ^ | 8/17/06
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"I Killed Jon Benet"
Drudge Report-My Way ^ | By ALISA TANG
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Shocked dad had thought son was dead (JonBenet Ramsey case)
Denver Post ^ | 8/17/06 | Kirk Mitchell
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Ex-wife gives alibi for JonBenet suspect
Associated Press ^ | August 17, 2006 | Alisa Tang
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Suspect in JonBenet Ramsey case calls her death 'an accident'
WTNH ^ | 8/17/06 | AP
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Suspect Confesses To JonBenet Ramsey Murder Thai Official Says
MSNBC ^ | 8-17-2006 | MSNCB
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Police: Suspect denies link to Ramsey
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/16/06 | Sutin Wannabovorn - ap
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Teacher held over murder of US child beauty queen
The Times ^ | August
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Suspect arrested in JonBenet Ramsey case (Ramsey Tip Led To Arrest!)
Yahoo ^ | 8/16/06
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Jon Benet Ramsey Suspect a Sonoma County Fugitive (California)
KRON ^ | August 16, 2006
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Suspect's DNA is a match in JonBenet Ramsey case
KUSA-TV | 8/16/06 | KUSA-TV
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John Ramsey on Today's Arrest in Connection With the Murder of His Daughter, JonBenet Ramsey
Yahoo, PR Newswire ^ | August 16, 2006
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Man arrested in death of JonBenet Ramsey ***UPDATE*** Name of suspect - John Mark Karr
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/16/06 | Catherine Tsai - ap
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Suspect arrested in JonBenet death
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8-16-06 | Charlie Brennan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1684888/posts
Arrest Made In JonBenet Ramsey Case (CBS Story)
WFRV ^ | 8/16/06
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Arrest in JonBenet Ramsey Case Expected "Shortly"
8.16.06 | Michael King
Fearless Prediction Time:
1) This guy had nothing to do with it.
2) This guy will be convicted anyway.
If I were on the jury, I would throw this guy away for a hundred years for aggrevated creepiness alone!
Did anyone here (besides me) happen to see the JBR report on "The Investigators" on Court TV last night? Private investigators have identified promising suspects (including a fellow named Helgoth, who was mysteriously murdered the day after the Boulder DA announced that Boulder would hunt down the murderers of JBR), but the Boulder police refuse to consider them. They're still stuck on John and Patsy Ramsey.
This Helgoth fellow had a pair of boots that matched the print found in the Ransey's cellar, a fascination with little girls, and a history of breaking in to homes in the Ramsey's neighborhood.
No one has yet addressed a key obvious question:
Where was O.J. at the time?
I'm here/PING for myself!
PING
What a great idea to have this thread...thanks.
Thanks. This is very helpful.
Fox said that the Washington Post has an article that says the handwriting is a match......Haven't seen a thread with it posted....
Thank you. Bump.
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http://www.sierratimes.com/rss/newswire.php?article=/news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060820/ap_on_re_us/jonbenet_ramsey&time=1156092852&feed=us
JonBenet murder suspect headed to U.S.
~SNIP~
On the plane, the 41-year-old teacher sat in a business class window seat next to Mark Spray, an investigator with the Boulder District Attorney's office. A U.S. Embassy official and an agent with " Homeland Security" on his T-shirt were also part of the escort party.
Before takeoff, Karr took a glass of champagne from a flight attendant and clinked glasses with Spray, who sipped orange juice.
Dinner on board, served on a starched white tablecloth, was one many passengers would envy. Karr started with a pate, then had a green salad with walnut dressing. The main course was fried king prawn with steamed rice and broccoli. Karr drank a beer, crushing the can with his hands when it was empty, then moved on to a glass of French chardonnay with his main course.
The suspect was relaxed, smiling and chatting nonstop with the U.S. officials next to him — until the television news crews on the flight turned their cameras on. Then he stopped smiling, clutched the armrests of his seat and stared at his lap.
Karr did not speak to reporters, but at one point summoned an AP reporter over to his seat. He mentioned an interview she had given, recalling that someone asked her what he was like.
"You said I looked you straight in the eye when I talked to you and I want to tell you I appreciate that, I thought it was nice," Karr told the AP reporter.
~SNIP~ more at link
Guys and gals, I realize I'm a new poster but I wanted to share what I've read so far. I lived out in Boulder for a while and this case was often a topic of discussion. I didn't really know much about it so I didn't have any theories on it. When this guy confessed I read up on it and realized that it wasn't that hard to figure out what happened even if you just look at the available (albeit not widely circulated) evidence. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, so don't misunderstand me, but the following scenario is the only one that fits the known evidence without explicit contradiction in known evidence (the simplest explanation):
John, Patsy, Jonbenet and Burke return home from a Christmas party around 9:30 p.m. Patsy feeds Burke and Jonbenet pineapple in the kitchen. They all go upstairs around 10 p.m. to get to bed for an early flight in the morning. While John and Patsy are busy in another room Burke is in Jonbenet's room. Jonbenet is sitting on the floor playing with that stuff girls put in their hair (those pins or whatever). Burke is swinging a bat in her bedroom. He starts swinging it over her head from behind. Being 9 years old he doesn't see the danger here. Jonbenet suddenly pops up to her feet and the bat in a full strength, leveraged swing clips the right top portion of her head as she rises. The blow is fatal.
The boy panics and runs to his parents saying Jonbenet is not getting up. The parents run to the room and quickly realize that she is turning blue and there is no pulse. It's a lost cause. They get Burke out of the room and tell him to stay in his room or whatever. They tell him she will be alright and they are taking her to the hospital. John, the cool-headed lawyer, assesses the situation and realizes that this looks bad, really bad, in terms of their legal standing. Most parents would have just called an ambulance and said it was an accident. But John realizes that this won't wash and that, at best, DFACs will break the family up. He shares this with Patsy. Patsy takes over.
Patsy carries the decedent down the spiral stairs to the basement, fashions a ligature from the paint tray and tightens it around Jonbenet's neck believing that the girl is already dead (in reality she may have been in a shallow state of life at that point). She tightens it with great force. She puts tape on her mouth. I don't know how but they manage to dispose of the tape roll and unused rope/line used in the ligature. The time delay from the head blow to the ligature is less than 45 minutes. The coroner would later set the time of death to very close to 10 p.m. making a ransom note written in the home by an intruder BEFORE the death impossible. Ergo, it couldn't have been a botched kidnapping.
She comes back to the kitchen or wherever and John is ruminating deeply about what to do. He realizes this won't wash either. Police will still suspect them of murder and DFACs won't like it either. So he suggests that an intruder PLUS a botched kidnapping is in order. So Patsy writes a ransom note on the kitchen pad with her left hand (she was ambidextrous). She signs it S.B.T.C meaning Saved By The Cross. This whole process takes them very late into the night. They clean the bat by washing it and cleaning off any fingerprints. The flashlight, as good measure, is also wiped so no one suspects anyone in the home. A suitcase is placed under the basement window. John climbs into the basement window and raises the grate slightly to be sure it's not entangled in grass or leaves. The bowl from which the pineapple was served is, however, not wiped (oversight). Nor is the writing pad from which the ransom note was written (couldn't because it's paper).
They, after much thinking and planning, ruminate that it would be best to call 911 about 5:30 and report her missing. By now it's probably 3 or 4 in the morning, they've already put Burke to sleep telling him that Jonbenet is fine. He is only 9 and doesn't realize how severe the injury was. Around 5:25 a.m. they call 911 but Burke has awakened with all the activity in the house and says, "what did I do" or something like that. Then he says, "what did you find". John Ramsey says, "we are not talking to you" in a scolding manner. The boy knows that something isn't right because it looks like the parents have never gone to bed. But he doesn't realize Jonbenet is dead.
The police come over. John is amazed that they didn't search the house right away. He realizes they've got to find the body soon before putrefaction sets in, which will time the death more precisely than rigor mortis (being a smart lawyer he may have realized this). But he doesn't want to find it because he knows that would look suspicious. But finally at about 1:30 a detective tells him to search the house. Realizing how late it is (and that he could also look suspicious if specifically asked to search the house and NOT find a body that would be later found) he figures it's better at this point if he finds the body.
John and Patsy claim thereafter that they had nothing to do with their daughters death. True. They claim that Burke did not murder her. True. It really was an accident. The kook that confessed is interesting because somehow he got extremely privileged info on what happened that night and used it to advance a book deal by making a false confession. He is indeed a nutjob, but he didn't have anything to do with THAT death.
This scenario fits the available evidence like a glove on a hand. Every other scenario contradicts it.
There is as much chance Karr killed JoBonet as I did. The MSM feeding frenzy over this whole matter is sickening. I told my wife I am not going to look at TV on this subject ever.
I think he either did it or knows a great deal about the killing from slumming in the same international pedo circles exchanging information, fantasies and pictures.
I think there is a very good chance that he will be killed in jail before being able to reveal very much about those secret and closed circles of mutual perverse interest.
ping
Thanks for the list!
Thanks Rte66...
I found another article
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