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To: Treader
"...neglect the fact the Jews would have been systematically persecuted regardless of what Darwin wrote or whether or not Hitler believed in evolution/ eugenics theories." So, Popman, you know this as fact? How?

I know this because the Jews were persecuted long before the rise of Nazism, Marxism, Communism and recently Islam's fascist and have been the scapegoat for thousands of years before they were stuffed in ovens.

Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.

157 posted on 08/20/2006 6:29:49 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Popman

I think you are forgetting the time-machine that Darwin used to (amongst other actions) influence Marx. Apparently he also used it to steal his ideas from Haeckel's mistake (both canards heard from creationist Freepers)


158 posted on 08/20/2006 7:07:53 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: Popman

I fully agree. Yet, the Diaspora in Europe, during the birth of Nazism- were doing great, and had been for quite awhile. My point is that Hilter truly needed some type of ill gotten dialectic/rationale, to convince so many to do the unyielding evil- that was done. Would such inhumanity evolved without the specious background of Darwinism? Perhaps, although not for the same reasons at that time. Let's focus on what did in fact occur, not the past pograms. The Nazi's and collaboraters deserve no such pass, as you have proposed.


618 posted on 08/22/2006 1:32:02 AM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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