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To: SirLinksalot
I'm a little late, but I'll take a shot:

#1: One problem is that the IDers have failed to concretely state what it is in scientific terms. If scientists critique one definitions they claim it's a strawman attack because this other definition is the right one.

#2: ID is stealth creationism. This has been clearly stated by the Discovery Institute itself in the "Wedge Strategy." Here are some selected quotes from them:

#3: Nice turnaround on the "God of the gaps." Scientists are losing this because they're not as good at rhetoric. Scientists have closed LOTS of gaps. They fixed up Newton's questions about planetary orbit (the most famous "God of the gaps" instance), and quite a few in Evolution. At least scientists know they can say "I don't know," which is the honest thing to do.

#4: The problem is with the IDers not being able to put together a paper that passes the sniff test at the journals. Please remove the tin foil hat.

#5: Actually, scientists who make wild claims are most often attacked by other scientists, not the public. IDers are sad their newborn "theory" is getting hammered and feel persecuted -- well wake up, this is science's vetting process, get used to it. Einstein himself attacked quantum theory, but it's still going strong and has even crossed into practical application.

437 posted on 08/07/2006 9:50:14 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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438 posted on 08/07/2006 9:11:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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