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To: sauron
As I have already demonstrated, Q.E.D., all things have a cause for their existence.

Well, no, you haven't - you've simply asserted it to be so. An assertion which, as I point out, is demonstrably false. But don't take my word for it - you should go look up the mechanics of radioactive decay, to confirm what I'm telling you. And then you'll see for yourself that not all things have a cause.

335 posted on 08/04/2006 11:41:00 AM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

You asserted, "No. Radioactive decay is spontaneous and uncaused ..." Perhaps you are confusing a reductionist perspective regarding symmetry breaking with a concept of emergent phenomena ... the Pauli exclusion principle may be applied to explain decay even though it is not possible to show the causality in action of decay. Tortoise is fond of pointing out (wisely) something to the effect of random is not to be confused with 'uncaused'. That you cannot define the specific cause for decay on the scale of a single atom should not be misinterpreted to signify no causality. With the development of the concept of emergence, we find that indeed all events in our universe of spacetime and all its permutations have a cause, though some causes are unknowable in current research. It is simple enough to prove to yourself: if an event happens in this universe then it is somehow involved with entropy and thus exists under 'causality' not beyond causality.


337 posted on 08/04/2006 11:57:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
And then you'll see for yourself that not all things have a cause.

Patently PREPOSTEROUS!

LOL!

Sauron (The cause merely hasn't been discovered, yet. You're a believer in MAGIC, are you?)

367 posted on 08/04/2006 2:51:52 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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