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That really only applies to young earth creation, the 6,000 year old earth variety. You know that there are old earth creationists out there and there is no distortion of science needed for that to fit with science, nor is there the twisting of Scripture that many are accused of doing. I'm sure you're aware of how the 6,000 year age of the earth was calculated.

Much of Genesis does not have any conflict with what science has *discovered* about the universe.

There's the *beginning* part which science tried for a long time to deny until Einstein and Hubble proved otherwise.

The earth being formless and void (solar nebula theory) and honestly I can't think of a more succinct way of describing the earth at that stage in fewer words.

Water is separated from land - the elements had to separate out and water from land.

Creation of light - light takes time to travel and the sun and stars would not give light until they ignited.

How could you explain how people who had no conceivable way of knowing any of that stuff could get so much right in so few verses?

The big issue with the evolution/creation debate seems to be the time frame. Put that aside and the Bible has much more credibility than some would like to give it credit for.

There are also odd comments about the natural world scattered throughout the Bible besides the creation account that also display knowledge that was unknowable to them at that time. How can that be explained away? Lucky guesses? That many of them?

Much of Genesis does not have any conflict with what science has *discovered* about the universe.

There's the *beginning* part which science tried for a long time to deny until Einstein and Hubble proved otherwise.

WHOA!

Metmom, sorry, but read the posts about Georges LeMaitre. HE was the one who argued for a creation of the universe, and he was a theologian/astronomer.

He posited the Big Bang (didn't call it that at the time), back in 1927, and was roundly criticized that he was attempting to put Genesis on scientific footing by proposing an origin to the universe--which, scientists argued at the time, had been in eternal existence.

Science OPPOSED the notion that we lived in a universe with an origin.

In other words: For 2,000 years, science argued it was an eternal universe, with no origin, no beginning..

For 2,000 years, Jews and Christians (ok, Jews a whole lot longer) argued it was a created universe, with a beginning in time.

I enjoy reading your posts. Keep it up. You just happen to be wrong on this one account. :P

But please go back and refer to posts #157, and especially #181.

Sauron