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"What is it about this guy that so many of you want to defend so much. Yes, he's a Christian..but a small sect of Christianity that hates Jews...he hates Bush, he's verbally attacked him on many occassions...He's against the war...why are you so willing to give him a pass?"

I really like to have the WHOLE story before I decide if I am interested in mounting a defense.

See Hildy Hollywood is the "beauty" of the beast of liberalism to me, and I as a conservative do not like to knowingly FUND liberal candidates.

Further Hildy opposition to Mel making that film "The Passion" (which I have NOT seen) was an attack on Christianity cause it was 'prophesied' how we Christians were going to react.

I have not seen the Mel's opposition apologize NOR do I seek their apology for trashing Christians in general.

Now it is somewhat peculiar to have a drunk get stopped and do and say the things claimed and only but only his acts and words get recorded.

So how about showing a video with sound Mel making an @ss of himself and what everyone else around him did and said as well.

If what is described thus far is accurate they had grounds to shoot him.

"he hates Bush, he's verbally attacked him on many occassions...He's against the war...why are you so willing to give him a pass?" This, IMO, is what this is all about. If Gibson supported the war and Bush, she would be defending him. I have taken issue with some of the outlandish comments Ann Coulter has said and most of the people on FR defend her, simply because she's on our side. Coulter's comments were made when she was presumably lucid and she doesn't apologize for them, yet she gets "a pass" and is even cheered for her comments. Gibson is on the wrong side of the war issue so, even if he apologizes, he is to be reviled. I am inclined to believe the police reports are accurate. But I am also inclined to believe he was beyond drunk....