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To: mac_truck
Wallace was a cretin, as I said earlier. I don't condone anything he did or anything Duke does and what they did or do doesn't change my reverence for the flag they misuse or for my ancestors who fought under it.

Do you dispute the accuracy of the CNN report about what Kerry and Sharpton were claiming? Do you support what Kerry's office was putting out?

I have no idea what Boston riot you're talking about. Nothing you've sourced discusses it. You quote a photo caption from an NPR story that said “some rocks were thrown at some black children”.

The picture caption talked about busing black students into white communities as well as rocks being thrown at the black students. The picture above the caption showed police in riot gear escorting black students in buses. But, but, but you had claimed that it was all about white students. Since you didn't get it the first time, here's an excerpt from another article on the subject saying similar things.

What was once a generally idle racial animus between blacks and whites swelled into seething bigotry. [Horrors, mac, there's that bigotry word again!]

When the buses pulled up to high schools in white neighborhoods, police had to escort black teenagers through a gauntlet of thrown rocks and bottles; the students heard shouts of "Die, niggers, die!" and saw signs that read "Bus Them Back to Africa!" [Source: especially to educate mac]

That any clearer? I remember the Boston riots, having earlier lived in both Boston and Cambridge while in college. Also from that article:

Somehow the birthplace of the American Revolution and the abolitionist movement has become perhaps the most segregated city in America.

You cherry-picked that statistic.

Some cherry pick. It disproved your argument. You said that only whites voted in Texas in 1954. My quote showed that blacks were voting in large numbers in 1946. Maybe I should have also pulled up the quote in that article about how Texas black precincts voted in 1932?

I don't deny that blacks were earlier denied the right to vote in the Texas Democrat primary or in earlier general elections. History is history.

Judging from your posts you're just another 'lilly white' Republican who ignores 50 years of living history in his own back yard.

Trying to goad me with "Bubba", "Sheets", and "lilly white"?

I donated food to efforts to help blacks get the vote in Alabama in the 1960s even though they would vote against my Party. What did you do to help them? I argued against segregation in the Deep South in the 1950s. Have you ever put yourself at risk for racial justice like that? Now who is 'lilly white'?

Face it RB, you can't defend the use of the Confederate flag by racists like Duke and Wallace and their supporters so you attack the person(s) bringing it up.

I've never defended their use of the CBF or any of their actions. I can't stop them from using it any more than you can stop the Klan and the Neo-Nazis from using the Stars and Stripes.

I have yet to meet a so-called southern conservative on this forum who will admit to ever supporting Wallace. Why is that?

I work with engineers and scientists in the South, most of them PhDs like myself. Back when Wallace was a minor trash-spouting wannabe national powerhouse, we took a poll among ourselves by secret paper ballot. None of us supported Wallace. None of us supported the Democrat. All of us supported the Republican.

I knew only one person who reportedly voted for Wallace (the wife of one of the engineers).

635 posted on 08/24/2006 9:44:18 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
what they [Duke & Wallace] did or do doesn't change my reverence for the flag they misuse or for my ancestors who fought under it.

Well it does change the symbolic meaning of the Confederate flag though doesn't it? Regardless of your personal feelings . Funny how nobody who claims to have such reverence for the CBF ever got aound to challanging that 'minor trash-spouting wannabe national powerhouse' George Wallace over its use.

Do you dispute the accuracy of the CNN report about what Kerry and Sharpton were claiming?

I could care less about the accuracy of anything CNN reports, much less Kerry's office. It sounds like you watch and believe too much cable television. That's your problem, not mine.

The picture above the caption showed police in riot gear escorting black students in buses. But, but, but you had claimed that it was all about white students.

Well at least up North the police were used to PROTECT the law abiding black folks. Or have you forgotten the Edmund Pettus bridge...incident? That was yer buddy Wallace again wasn't?

[Source: especially to educate mac]

Lol. Please tell me you have something more substantial to support your crap than an old opinion piece written by a graduate student.

I remember the Boston riots, having earlier lived in both Boston and Cambridge while in college.

I seriously doubt the accuracy of anything you remember from college.

I don't deny that blacks were earlier denied the right to vote in the Texas Democrat primary or in earlier general elections. History is history.

Do you think the 1944 Surpreme Court decision on "whites-only" primaries was the end of the black voting rights problem in Texas? You're kidding me right? How about all those other methods used in Texas and the rest of the South back then?

Poll taxes
Literacy tests
“Grandfather” clauses
Suppressive election procedures
Black codes and enforced segregation
Gerrymandering
Physical intimidation and violence
Restrictive eligibility requirements
Rewriting of State constitutions

-btw It is interesting to note that in 2006 the SCV and their Republican dupes delegates are putting their trust in the Court rather than the People in their quest to have the Confederate plaques reinstated. Why is that?

One final question and then I think we're done here. Do you consider Alberto Gonzalez a Southerner, and if not why not?

655 posted on 08/28/2006 12:32:21 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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