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To: SunkenCiv
"He brought cultural progress that helped liberate the Europeans from the bondage of theology -- in this sense, his expeditions served as a catalyst for the Renaissance,"

Maybe this regurgitator of the marxist line against religion ought to reflect that it is too bad a little bondage of Christianity and charity did not rub off on this mass murderer whose huge empire disintegrated after his death and left small legacy except perhaps where it was ultimately co-opted in China.


6 posted on 07/22/2006 12:59:25 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: nathanbedford

Didn't the mongolian nobles become assimlated?


16 posted on 07/22/2006 2:55:38 PM PDT by John Will
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To: nathanbedford
Actually, the Mongols practiced freedom of religion long before the West did. It was enshrined in the Yasa [Jasagh], Chinnghis Quan's Law Code, and enforced by the Mongol Army [although he wasn't real fond of Muslims].

The argument can be made that Chinnghis Quan and the Mongols are responsible for the European Age of Discovery.With the Pax Mongolica that lasted through the reign of four Qa Quans [Chinnghis, Ugeddai, Guyuk and Mongke], Europe had access to the Silk Road and all the goods of the East they desired, plus access to Eastern technology. And the entire Silk Road was secure and safe.

With the internal wars that developed after Mongke Qa Quan's death on campaign in China, on the one hand between his brother Hulegu's Il Khanate of Persia and the Golden Horde under Berke Quan; and the other between his other two brothers, Qublai and Arik Boka over the succession, that ready access was cut off, but not the desire for the goods Europeans had grown to require, and desire. The Age of Exploration was the result of that rupture.

By the bye, while Chinnghis, Uggedai, Guyuk and Mongke were pagans, Hulegu and Qublai were Buddhists, Berke was a Muslim, Hulegu's wife and one of Qublai's were Nestorian Christians. And Chinnghis' Empire , in areas, survived his death by three hundred years.
17 posted on 07/22/2006 3:25:50 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: nathanbedford

I didn't read the whole article and I have no idea what kind of blather this Commie had to say about Genghis Khan.

As a matter of fact, the great Khan was extremely tolerant in the field of theology. Clergymen of various faiths were welcomed in his camp although he was an Animist personally.

He did develope a healthy hatred for Muslims after some of them had the stupidity to nail a couple of his emissaries to the wall of their city.

Genghis' response is one the west should probably consider emulating.

There were no further incidents in his lifetime from the Muslims against Mongol emissaries.

A good lesson taught reaps benefits for the future.


26 posted on 07/24/2006 8:51:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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