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To: SirLinksalot
Your comments on quote mining are noted.

Here is what you included in your post (back in #212):

All paleontologists know that the fossil record contains precious little in the way of intermediate forms; transitions between major groups are characteristically abrupt.

Here is the rest of the passage (source):

Gradualists usually extract themselves from this dilemma by invoking the extreme imperfection of the fossil record.

Although I reject this argument (for reasons discussed in ["The Episodic Nature of Evolutionary Change"]), let us grant the traditional escape and ask a different question. Even though we have no direct evidence for smooth transitions, can we invent a reasonable sequence of intermediate forms -- that is, viable, functioning organisms -- between ancestors and descendants in major structural transitions? Of what possible use are the imperfect incipient stages of useful structures? What good is half a jaw or half a wing? The concept of preadaptation provides the conventional answer by permitting us to argue that incipient stages performed different functions. The half jaw worked perfectly well as a series of gill-supporting bones; the half wing may have trapped prey or controlled body temperature. I regard preadaptation as an important, even an indispensable, concept. But a plausible story is not necessarily true. I do not doubt that preadaptation can save gradualism in some cases, but does it permit us to invent a tale of continuity in most or all cases? I submit, although it may only reflect my lack of imagination, that the answer is no, and I invoke two recently supported cases of discontinuous change in my defense.

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Happy now?

I will leave it to you and the lurkers to decide whether this changes any meanings.

Your links to the Discovery Institute I did not follow. I do science, not apologetics.

341 posted on 07/22/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
Happy now?

Very Happy. The additional quote does not show that they've provided good evidence for these so called transitional forms they've been hypothesizing. I'm glad you added even more words.

I will leave it to you and the lurkers to decide whether this changes any meanings.

I believe lurkers can make up their own mind. To me, the evidence ( even with the additional paragraph you added ) does not show evidence at all. It simply shows MORE SPECULATION.

Your links to the Discovery Institute I did not follow. I do science, not apologetics.

BUT YOU DO APOLOGETICS SIR, YOU DO.
355 posted on 07/23/2006 6:58:00 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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