[Non-Sequitur]

The Bible does not say whether the earth revolves around the sun or the sun revolves around the earth. The Bible does talk about the sun rising and setting.

Joshua 10:12-13:

On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon."

So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.

The literary term for this is phenomenological language; phenomenological language is language that refers to how an event looks to the people that observe it

Creationists would have us believe the Bible is the literal truth, not the phenomenological truth. It the Bible says the sun stood still, then it stood still. And therefore must revolve around the earth.

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Creationists would have us believe the Bible is the literal truth, not the phenomenological truth. It the Bible says the sun stood still, then it stood still. And therefore must revolve around the earth.

If you begin with the assumption that there is a God, it is not difficult to extrapolate that to believe that He is able to suspend the passage of time, to part a body of water, or to change water into wine.

If you believe in evolution, you have to start with the assumption that man doesn't natter in this universe! We are just a fleeting moment, and then we will become something else...

Sometimes I think I may agree with them*. But, I don't really, in the end. I believe in an omnipotent God. I guess I should be ignored for my primitive ideas.

You can believe whatever you wish. Just quit peddling this "snake oil" evolution THEORY you worship!

*algore is a good example of de-evolution.

[Between the Lines]

Creationists would have us believe the Bible is the literal truth, not the phenomenological truth. It the Bible says the sun stood still, then it stood still. And therefore must revolve around the earth.

Creationists do not believe that the entire Bible is literal truth. Everyone knows that there are analogies, similes, metaphors and parables in the Bible. They do believe however that the creation story in the Bible is the literal truth.

In the quote you pulled from Joshua there is a point of view from which the sun was viewed, because men were there to witness it, thus the phenomenological language. But, in the creation story there is no witnesses, just God's word. Thus the creation story has no phenomenological language in it.