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To: Diego1618
M-PI wrote: "Your [Douglas K C's} church (one of the spin-offs of Herbert W. Armstrong's cult) rejects many of the core doctrines of the historic Christian religion, doesn't it? For instance, you reject the Trinity doctrine believing that the Holy Spirit isn't God."

Diego1618 wrote: "Ah, yes.....the Trinity Doctrine. In order to support "THIS" theory you have to use terms not found in the Bible, rely on false scripture, depend on twisted interpretations that contradict extremely clear scripture, and create a convoluted "THEORY" that no one really understands forcing its adherents to declare it a mystery. What did your statement have to do with the subject of evolution....anyway?"

Point [1]: Your response is a non sequitur.

Point [2]: The purpose of my post was to bring certain things that float - to the surface so as to become visible to unwary, yet orthodox Christians.

Thanks. LOL

210 posted on 07/22/2006 1:27:31 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Matchett-PI

Matchett-PI...I know that you and I do not agree on the evolution/creation debate...however, I have always taken the time to read the religion threads, and I always note that you are there, and seem to have a grasp of the Scriptures, that I do not have, and are able to point out and discuss areas of the Bible, where some popular 'ministers' or 'reverends', have come to some very different ideas, in opposition to what most mainstream, orthodox religions teach and preach about...

You have already pointed out this Herbert W. Armstrong, and I remember years ago, before he died, when he had a program on TV...if you dont mind, I would like to ask you about another TV preacher, who also has a home base church, but is on, at least here in the Pacific Northwest, for 6 hours at nite...I am speaking about Arnold Murray...

I bring his name up, because in the question and answer portion of his program, he was directly addressing Genesis...saying that there is a gap of millions or billions or years in between Genesis 1:1, and Genesis 1:2, during which time dinosaurs roamed the earth, and if I have my stories straight, also a time when we roamed the earth, but no in physical bodies, but rather in some sort of spirit sense...Murray calls this an 'age'....he then goes to talk about all the races of men, being created on the 6th day of creation, lots of lots of different people, and then Adam and Eve being created on the 8th day(Huh, I never heard of this 8th day)...

Also he asserts that there was a flood that Noah endured...however, this Murray asserts that Noah took on board, not just himself, and his wife, and his sons and daughters in law, but also took two of every other race of human beings aboard the ark...

This is all new stuff to me, and I am at a loss as to where these ideas come from...I bring this up, on this thread, rather than the religious threads, because I have seen some folks on these CREVO threads, make these very same assertions....that there were different 'ages', that the earth itself is billions of years old, but and occupies the gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, thus being of course relevant to this talk about creation/evolution...

Just curious about your opinion of this Arnold Murray, and his very different beliefs regarding creation/evolution...

Thanks in advance...


214 posted on 07/22/2006 1:45:34 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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