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To: ToryHeartland

So you have proof that all mammals evolved from this creature. This is a proven fact. Is that your position?

I said "fall down." I should have said "failed to be consistent with their own standards of proof." That is all I am asking for. If you have proof of an original mammal from which all others descended, lets see the proof. If you have a theory that there is one, let's just call it that. Still standing? I think not.

Don't be so condescending please. It makes you sound like quite an ass and does nothing to convince anyone that you are right or to further the conversation. You have only demonstrated that a creature existed that is theorized to be the first mammal (in fact, you suggest several may, which really demonstrates that you don't know and can't demonstrate that there is a single ancestor). You have proven nothing except that you have another theory. If you can't do better than provide a second theory as your proof, you have proven my point. If science isn't about questioning the theory and asking for evidence, what is it?

I have no interest in discussing anything with someone who thinks this is an insult game, so grow up or find someone else to play your games with. I asked a question about the conflicts in your method as stated and as practiced, and you failed to give a reasonable answer, relying on another theory as proof of the first one. Once again, another reason to stay away from threads on this topic, where there is never any light, only heat.


103 posted on 07/22/2006 7:53:52 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: TN4Liberty
So you have proof that all mammals evolved from this creature. This is a proven fact. Is that your position? I said "fall down." I should have said "failed to be consistent with their own standards of proof." That is all I am asking for. If you have proof of an original mammal from which all others descended, lets see the proof....[gratutitous abuse deleted]...You have proven nothing except that you have another theory. If you can't do better than provide a second theory as your proof, you have proven my point.

Clearly, you are going to need to enlighten me about what you accept as 'proof,' and what you regard the measure science (which I remain cheered to know that you are not 'against') uses as 'proof.' E.g. if I drop a stone and, matching the prediction of the theory of gravity, it falls to the earth, have I:

1. Demonstrated gravity, or

2. Given evidence of gravity, or

3. Proved gravity?

I have no interest in discussing anything with someone who thinks this is an insult game, so grow up or find someone else to play your games with.

Please indicate where on earth I offered you any insult??? If you perceived an insult in my post, then you are correct in believing one of us is exhibting some arrested development here.

158 posted on 07/22/2006 10:17:50 AM PDT by ToryHeartland (English Football -- no discernable planning whatsoever.)
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