Posted on 07/22/2006 5:35:21 AM PDT by DouglasKC
Did you minor in Law?
"A discrete system would use different words in describing it's dynamics."
Evolution is discrete, and this was understood by Darwin.
"Did you minor in Law?"
No. And Gould completely rejected the *hopeful monster* hypothesis, where a new species is born to a mother of an older species in a single generation.
I heard they recently pulled a fish with human teeth out of the water.
A fish with 'human teeth'?
He was my brother in law. I even paid for his trip to the Galapagos.
Why thank you, maam! I didn't see any reason to mince my thoughts, in order to preserve sensibilties. I am not an ecumenicist. I believe their is one true church, and it doesn't meet in a building. We are all open for membership. There are no dues. There is only the need to hear a lttle story, and believe it, or not. I visit regularly with other Christian brethren in assembly several times a week to worship God.
I did not post animous toward those church organizations, though. I stated their own many doctrines, which are different than what you may find in the Scriptures! I directed attention to their history, and cast doubt on any claims of superiority. I don't agree with their claim to authority, nor superiority. I guess they will probably not let me become a member...
The title of this Thread is about what the fossil record shows. It shows the biggest farce being perpetuated on mankind (next to algore's global warming, no cooling, no warming, no...) with a distinct lack of evidence.
Well I disagree with both your conclusions, and your tone...
I dont look for anyone to look to preserve anyone elses sensibilities..I just found your post crass...apparently, tho, you liked it, so thats just the way it goes...
Sounds like they may have finally tracked down Henry Limpet.
Show me anything I said in error. Otherwise, please keep your emotions to yourself! I don't really don't hear anything through the whine!
God has a plan for the earth, and He is still in control of everything that is! Your pathetic protests will change no hearts toward Him. His Glory is reflected in Jesus.
I did six years of grad school, half of it in evolution and closely related subjects.
If there was some grand conspiracy, nobody invited me.
I had (I think) three seminars in "Problems in Evolution." All dealt with the fine details of interpretation of the various finds. There was a lot of change going on in classification in those years, as new finds were made and argued.
There was no campaign that I saw to suppress any views. Rather, there was a detailed study of the evidence. And that means detailed; hours in the bone lab with the actual specimens (casts of course), and lots of quizzes on the fine details.
That is one thing that is often missing in the debates on these threads, on both sides but mostly on the side of the creationists. They generally have not studied the evidence very closely. I have seen more cases where they have reverted to Biblical quotations to prove a point than to relying on the fine details of morphology or DNA.
So, to answer your question: there is a lot of controversy in evolution, but it is over interpretation of the evidence. It is not between evolution and particular religious views.
Dissenting views in evolution or any other science have only to bring scientific evidence to the argument and they will be listened to. But the claims we hear almost daily on these threads will not do it: "Its just a theory" & "Where you there?" & "There's no evidence" are just a few of the highlights.
An aside, to all: Much of this thread was devoted to picking on Darwin and a few of his comments. You want to battle evolution? Better start reading Johanson and White and the geneticists. Brush up on geology and radiometric dating too. Darwin hasn't had a new idea in a century, so if you are battling his comments you are a century behind.
Now, back to work again.
"Otherwise, please keep your emotions to yourself! I don't really don't hear anything through the whine!...Your pathetic protests will change no hearts toward Him."
You're not in a very nice mood, are you?
I think man is in a spiritual evolution. The evolutionists ought to work with that, not the body. 
I will post as I chose and certainly dont need someone like you, to tell me how to post...and I will leave it at that...
Yep. Try to get a lot of people to ACCEPT the same set of conclusions, and call it scientific discovery! Consensus is what they mean about acceptance. You are either for or agin!
>>>See Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes for dozens of examples.<<<
I cannot believe your arrogance (or, maybe, pretence). Who the hell are you to claim God made a mistake? Okay, I admit, he may have made a mistake with you.
Creationists do not believe that the entire Bible is literal truth. Everyone knows that there are analogies, similes, metaphors and parables in the Bible. They do believe however that the creation story in the Bible is the literal truth.
In the quote you pulled from Joshua there is a point of view from which the sun was viewed, because men were there to witness it, thus the phenomenological language. But, in the creation story there is no witnesses, just God's word. Thus the creation story has no phenomenological language in it.
I can understand scientist not wanting to "rock the boat". Take Gould for instance. He looked at the fossil record and saw that it didn't conform to Darwin's continuum theory. So he went public and was dismayed that the "fundamentalist" were using his quotes against Darwin.
Darwin is a god like figure in the pantheon of great scientists. So what do you do? Trash the god? Or punt? He punted. Understandable human reaction. Scientists know that Gould was right. But the name "Darwin" is a powerful franchise. And you don't dump the name for something ephemeral like "punctuated equilibrium" with out paying a price.
Better to keep the name and modify the theory while the publics not looking.
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