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Zidane apparently called 'son of a terrorist whore'...(Drudge headline)
Drudge Report and Times Online ^ | 10 July 06 | Matt Hughes

Posted on 07/10/2006 7:32:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot

Our correspondent finds out what may have caused a great player to lose his head in such spectacular style

WITH his monkish mien backed by a sense of brooding menace, Zinédine Zidane has always been something of an enigma, so it is perhaps fitting that the final act of his career should be the source of such mystery. Just why did a man blessed with complete control of a football lose his head in such a violent manner at such a crucial moment, boring it into the chest of Marco Materazzi?

As L’Equipe summed up the moment of madness with a headline of “Regrets Éternels”, a day of endless questioning began. With many conflicting versions of events circling on the internet and in the world’s media, The Times enlisted the help of an expert lip reader, Jessica Rees, to determine the precise nature of the dialogue that caused Zidane to react in such a manner.

After an exhaustive study of the match video, and with the help of an Italian translator, Rees claimed that Materazzi called Zidane “the son of a terrorist whore” before adding “so just f*** off” for good measure, supporting the natural assumption that the Frenchman must have been grievously insulted.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: 1billionfans; 1sport; calcio; copamundial; france; fussball; futbol; germany; italy; muslim; soccer; whore; worldcup; zidane; zizou
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To: kabar

Yes, Zidane's exit likely did not affect the outcome of the match. If Materazzi truly said that about Zidane's mother, he got what he deserved, as did Zidane. At least Zidane had the decency to accept his fate and not argue that he shouldn't have been ejected. I'm sure Materazzi and the other Italians were jawing at Zidane the entire game, and he chose his moment so he could minimize the impact on his team. He would've gotten away with it had the fourth FIFA official not seen the incident.

This is a real stretch, but imagine if Tiger Woods' playing partner had said something derogatory about Earl Woods. There would be one fewer pro golfer on the PGA tour today, and justifiably so. Of course, I'm assuming it would be impossible for one to swing a golf club with a golf ball permanently embedded in the back of one's skull. On a side note, I'm glad to see Tiger getting his mojo back.

I kind of like the fact that Zidane seems to be taking the "what happens on the pitch stays on the pitch" line about the incident.


101 posted on 07/10/2006 9:05:52 PM PDT by kwyjibo (Sincerity is the key. If you can learn to fake that, there'll be no stopping you.)
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Where did everyone go?

I was havin' fun watchin' y'all beat up on each other!


102 posted on 07/10/2006 9:06:56 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Javelina
For someone who hates soccer so much, you sure do post a lot about it. Weird complex.

Weird indeed, is it not? If you read through the soccer threads as I do you'll notice the same trolls again and again, always spouting the same tired lines.

If you ask me, I think the legacy sports fans are getting a little nervous that this soccer thing is catching on and they're peeing in their Depends.

103 posted on 07/10/2006 9:13:40 PM PDT by notfornothing
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To: Pox

The best way to answer school yard taunts is to play better.

Shame that at 34 years of age, Zilzane is still an immature spoiled child.


104 posted on 07/10/2006 9:29:07 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: kwyjibo

Agree. The Italians were mugging him physically during the match so it went beyond mere words. I thought he accepted the decision stocially and like a man. It was his last game, at least as a member of the national team. It is too bad that his career had to end that way, but he did receive the honor as best player during the World Cup. He is a legend and over time, his reputation won't suffer.


105 posted on 07/10/2006 10:14:53 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SkyPilot
Zidane is a whiney little bitch. He has reacted with violence before and has had 15 red cards in his career. He was suspended for stomping on an opposing player in the 1998 World Cup and has been ejected for head butting an opponent in club play. He always threatens and attempts to intimidate opposing defenders, but came up short this time. The Italians did exactly what they set out to do. They got inside his head and won the cup. If Zidane was too damn dumb to see this he deserves to go out a loser.
106 posted on 07/10/2006 10:37:53 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

this kind of reminds me of Dan rather.. could have gone out with sportsmanship, dignity untouched.. but chose to be a punk and soiled himself in fron of the nation


107 posted on 07/10/2006 10:42:10 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: dfwgator

Are you joking, he most certainly argued.


108 posted on 07/10/2006 10:44:31 PM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go to farrrrrr")
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To: Cinnamon
The American commentators made me laugh. During the entire match they were referring to Zidane like some elder statesman and the epitome of class. They obviously didn't know him or his history.
109 posted on 07/10/2006 10:48:52 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

well I bet he's thinking very hard about what he told the Italian that greased the wheels on this whole mess...


110 posted on 07/10/2006 11:01:31 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: SamAdams76

Yes. Meanwhile, here's a chance for soccer to really appeal to US fans. Encourage violent incidents like this...in the true spirit of baseball brawls, "I went to a fight and a hockey
game broke out", etc. And start off each match with that world wrestling guy saying, "Lllllllllllet's get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!!!!"

FULL CONTACT SOCCER!


111 posted on 07/11/2006 1:02:42 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: RoseofTexas

Zidane is no more a Muslim than you are.
Unless you think its genetic?


112 posted on 07/11/2006 1:52:59 AM PDT by weegie
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To: LdSentinal
The strange thing is why head-butt him? Why not punch him in the face?

If you followed the earlier games, Figo, the Portugal captain, also head-butted an opponent, and didn't get caught.

Here's a rationale:

A fist and a punch are almost always seen by the refs, and result in instant ejection.

Option two is to wait until the next hard play, and then take out the opponent's knee -- but this is more of an 'escalation' among the players' because this puts players' careers at risk -- so 'clean' players don't go there. (Although Matarazzi would do that to an opponent in a nanosecond, as he's a well known cheap-shot artist).

The third option is the discrete head butt. It sends a message, and it happens quickly -- the recipient knows the message being sent. It won't cripple anyone.

The only problem was that Zidane was SO angry that, once he started the head-butt, he threw all his weight into it. Matarazzi went with the flow, to dramatize. And -- it wasn't private anymore.

113 posted on 07/11/2006 2:47:22 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

See post #8.


114 posted on 07/11/2006 3:09:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Wow - please see post #8.


115 posted on 07/11/2006 3:10:56 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: jveritas

Well, then, you bring it up with the news sites that reported it, including the BBC, not with me.


116 posted on 07/11/2006 4:47:15 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: jveritas

No surprise that you would defend the cheating Italians. Still, at least France beat the crap out of the appallingly average Brazil side.


117 posted on 07/11/2006 9:11:13 AM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: Natural Law
'Zidane is a whiney little bitch. '

Au contraire. Zidane is most unlike the whining cheating Portuguese and Italian players who did their best to ruin the World Cup. He could have whined after the match about his opponent but remained silent.

118 posted on 07/11/2006 9:13:51 AM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
He may be a great athlete, but he has always been a whiney little bitch. He provokes and retaliates with the best of them and always has an excuse afterward like there is justification for an assault on an opponent. In American sporting jargon he is a world class hot head. This personal flaw, like his lack of stamina, inability to pass to his right, and tendency to not run off the ball, was known and exploited by the Italians.
119 posted on 07/11/2006 10:57:03 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: SkyPilot

I thought he called him a Frog Surrender Monkey.


120 posted on 07/11/2006 12:36:58 PM PDT by wmileo
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