[dfwgator]

And if it goes to PKs they can't take the penalties either.

Advantage Germany.

[jjbrouwer]

The Krauts have been dire in this match. In truth, they were rubbish in the other matches too (particularly in defence) but the quality of the opposition was so poor, they got away with it.

The terrible thing is there are two other appalling teams in the same half of the draw in Ukraine and Italy so if Argentina lose, one of these bozoes will reach the final.