Posted on 06/24/2006 7:35:36 AM PDT by Brytani
According to Fox News, Patsy Ramsey, mother of Jonbenet Ramsey has passed away from ovarian cancer.
I'm just at post #23 and haven't read any farther yet, but the ovarian cancer she started with had metasticized to liver and possibly brain - so all descriptions may be correct - but it was ovarian to begin with.
excellent point...
You don't know for sure that the first thing they did was call police. It might have been to write a ransom note.
Umm, they didn't "continue" to take lie detector tests or "pass them all."
They refused and refused and refused to take any polygraph tests at all, even went to court to not have to take them. Years later, they paid a polygrapher to administer a private test to each of them, with only 3 questions on it.
Patsy had several inconclusives - John passed the simple test. They had a huge press conference to announce the private results and failed to mention the two days it took Patsy to pass the test and the several inconclusives she had first. They didn't even allow the first polygrapher (yes, it took two) to make a statement - his name had to be pulled out of them, at that.
It was all exceedingly dishonest. Lin Wood even lied about it to the public.
You also mentioned handwriting analysis. Patsy did not "pass" that scrutiny. They could not clear her.
They excluded many people, but not Patsy.
As far as not releasing JBR's body - the Ramseys had already just gone off and left her lying on the floor of their living room and were preparing their plane to leave town immediately. They didn't seem too concerned about getting her body or staying with it.
And you do not know what the Grand Jury concluded. NO ONE does.
Stun gun use is simply a *theory* - no proof.
John broke it - he *said* he broke it. He even used the broken window twice, that he owns up to - when he was locked out of the house and Patsy was away in Charlevoix.
Don't know if anyone posted this.
Full text of the JonBenet ransom note
"Mr. Ramsey: Listen Carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction. We respect your business, but not the country it serves.
At this time, we have your daughter in our possession. She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to see 1997, you must follow our instructions to the letter.
You will withdraw $118,000 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attachŽ to the bank.
When you get home, you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 a.m. tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence and earlier pickup of your daughter.
Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter. You will also be denied her remains for a proper burial. The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them.
Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as police or F.B.I.will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in way marked or tampered with, she dies. You can try to deceive us, but be warned we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics.
You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us. Follow our instructions and you stand a 100% of getting her back. You and your family are under constant scrutiny, as well as the authorities.
Don't try to grow a brain John. You are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us, John. Use that good, Southern common sense of yours. It's up to you now John! Victory! S.B.T.C."
" ... Then of course we have the numerous lie detector tests that both parents took and passed all of them. ..."
This is not a true statement.
The Grand Jury did not issue a warrant or indightment.You figure it out.
The guilt of protecting her husband weakened her for this.
So, now John killed her. Prove it.
Good grief. Take a nap or something.
" ... The window had footprints, in the snow going up to the window. Inside the basement, there was evidence of footprints coming in from the window. This was documented by the Boulder CSI department, was listed in their crime scene report and promptly forgotten. By the time their CSI teams went back out to making a casting on the footprints in the snow, the snow had melted to the point a casting was impossible. All documented in their files. ..."
These are not true statements.
Heck, JonBenet's death wasn't worthy of national news in the first place.
Hi! Both of those guys had been cleared long ago.
You are talking about two different perps - the attacker in the dance class case was known to the family ... and the guy who suicided was a different person.
Simply because they prayed together.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. God knows, no one's opinion will be changed. From my humble point of view it is not right to accuse a young boy of murder based on nothing more than an assumption of jealousy.
And if not being "normal" is indicative of murderous tendencies, well, that certainly would not narrow down the list of suspects in any case.
You are right, the discussion is ridiculous. I'm outa here.
May she rest in peace.
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