[Das Outsider]

I don't listen to Zig that often...8^)

I don't either but (and this will tell you how young I am) I've always heard him mentioned as an inspirational speaker. I catch Dobson's radio show in the morning, since I leave the evangelical station on all night, and then I hear Ziglar. The man makes Zell Miller sound like a Damn Yankee. As I mentioned earlier, he does have a positive effect on people, so I'm not dissing him in any sense.

[rzeznikj at stout]

So have I...

BTW--let me put it this way. I'm still under consumption age...8^)