Posted on 06/01/2006 7:20:27 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
AFFIDAVIT "denied". That's the law.
Mrs. Schiavo is clearly able to respond cognitively to environmental stimulii. She interacts verbally and motorically with her mother and with doctors giving verbal instructions. It is clear on its face that she has brain matter for these functions, but has been deprived of appropriate therapy and stimulation. This is documented in the following behaviors...
Dr. Gimon then discusses twelve non-reflexive actions by Terri that he observed, involving both sight and hearing. He concludes, "The above behaviors are all indicative of cognition and (with the exception of pupil dilation) are volitional in nature. They are completely inconsistent with a diagnosis of vegetative state."
Gimon was professionally optimistic that Terri could improve with new therapies and offered these observations.
-- "Terri demonstrates control of cognition and would, within a reasonable degree of clinical therapeutic certainty, respond to neuroaerobics."
-- "It is my opinion that Mrs. Schiavo is not in a persistent vegetative state. Terri exhibits extensive and varied purposeful reactions to her environment. These behaviors are particularly pronounced in interactions with her family. There is much research to affirm the fact that close family members typically perceive cognitive behaviors in brain-injured patients before other caregivers recognize them."
-- "Depriving brain-damaged patients of medical, physical, occupational, recreational and speech-language therapy is both neglect and abusive. By denying such patients the stimulation provided by enjoying a variety of visitors, such common comforts as cards and flowers in her room, and the opportunity to leave her room, their cognitive functioning is necessarily depressed from what it would otherwise be. Given the neglect which Terri has suffered and the number of years over which it has occurred, it is striking that her current cognitive functioning is as strong and varied in expression as it is. This indicates that sufficient brain structure exists for further cognitive and behavioral progress to be made. Terri is an excellent subject for a variety of cognitive treatment protocols designed to improve her neurological function, including neuroaerobics, physical therapy, recreational / occupational therapy, and speech-language therapy."
But do read it yourselves, FRiends.
One of these days I might lose my respect for lawyers, judges and politicians.
God love Sophie Scholl -- sister in spirit to Theresa Marie Schindler.
It was lawful, therefore not murder. Those who call it murder are ignorant of the meaning of the word.
Give it up if that's the best you have -- even the autopsy confirmed she was blind. You fanatics are something else. Faced with facts, you still deny it.
T'wit also made those claims but refuses to support them with proof.
Rumor and gossip -- that's all you got.
Fascinating indeed. Especially this part: "I have not physically examined Terri Schiavo ..."
You guys are something else. Plus, he's a PhD, not a medical doctor. His affidavit is a joke.
In it, Michael says:
SCHIAVO: "The parents also testified in court that they didn't know what Terri's wish was. It's what they wanted. This is what they want for Terri. So basically it wasn't about Terri anymore. It was about what the Schindlers wanted. Her brother testified it brings them joy."
He doesn't say, "we didn't know". Please reference me to an actual transcript or audio where he says this.
In an evidentiary hearing, it is the rule for deponents to present their credenda and state how their expertise applies. His C.V. and related experience is there for anyone to read. Here is the rest of the sentence that you deliberately omitted.
"...however, I have studied the video clips presented at the October 2002 Medical Evidentiary Hearing. The observations that follow are all within the parameters of the profession of clinical neuropsychology, and are similar to the observations that I am called upon to make regularly in the course of evaluating patients as a clinical neuropsychologist."
The gentleman is a specialist in a field highly pertinent to Terri's case. He has a doctorate in brain function. You didn't even know what a candy striper is.
He never physically examined her. I rest my case.
"...You see that, don't you, huh? You do follow that a bit, huh? ... OK, that's good!"
You don't believe Dr. Cranford? Then how could you believe him when he claimed Terri was PVS?
No one thought she was blind before the autopsy. Her med records show a number of tracking tests by medical professionals. The ME's announcement that she was cortically blind was a surprise to everyone.
You don't? You're in the minority, pal. Al-Zarqawi and the Hamas security enforcer, or whatever his official title was, were cold blooded terrorists. They murdered(or were directly responsible for) scores of people. I guess you haven't been keeping up on the threads where people have posted pics of jubilant Iraqis and other ME citizens dancing in the streets. OMG, don't tell me that you rely on the MSM??? They consistantly followed up on that story with one on Haditha...the bastards!
Robert, why do you insist on being precious about this particular thread topic? Terri, Haleigh, Scott, Daniel, et al, are not mass murdering scumbags. If it is true that bin Laden is on dialysis, I still say smoke his ass. He is a terrorist, and a person who will continue to direct his followers to slaughter innocents, and that can be done while on a feeding tube as well. What the hell does that have to do with feeding tubes and disabled people? PS: thought I'd check out your homepage. You seem to like when people pay attention to you. Get a puppy.
I was surprised to see that T'wit approved of anyone being murdered, that's all. And when I asked if T'wit would approve this murder if Al-Zarqawi were on a feeding tube, bjs1779 resoponded that "Twit would support Adlof Hitler if he was on a feeding tube".
Based on that response, I'd say both T'wit and bjs1779 were in the minority, wouldn't you?
"PS: thought I'd check out your homepage."
That's why it's there. Oh, you'll note that it's not a shrine to Terri, like another poster's is on this thread.
Everyone knew she was blind except the Terri fanatics -- even you, to this day, are expressing your doubts that Terri was blind. And you have the benefit of the autopsy. What's your excuse?
"Her med records show a number of tracking tests by medical professionals."
If by tracking tests you mean the balloon tracking the random movements of her eyes, yes. If the tests showed anything else, why, we know now that those results were false, don't we?
How?
"CRANFORD: I was trying to rouse her initially and I always talk to patients and I've done this for 25 years. When I examine a patient in a vegetative state I talk to them and I always talk to them and I was trying to rouse her to get her to open her eyes and she did open her eyes and so arousal by itself means nothing. That means that her eyes open. That's perfectly consistent with a vegetative state."
I believed his conclusion, not what he was saying during a patient examination.
This is what I mean by being "precious". We're talking about war criminals, the enemy if you will. If they are captured, but in bad enough shape to need a feeding tube, then a feeding tube they shall have. After the trial, they get to live, because we no longer hang them from lightposts or have firing squads. I live in CA, and the fruits and nuts are now trying to say that lethal injection is too inhumane.
There is a case in the UK, reported here yesterday, where a couple were convicted of raping a 12 week old baby. Now if they get pounded in gen pop(of course the UK is probably protecting their worthless asses), I personally wouldn't hook them up in the first place, because they deserve the death penalty. Just give them "lots" of morphine. Ooops, my bad? I take a dim view of maggots like that.(the man only served 3 yrs for the brutal assault on a 14 yr old previously)
Adolph Hitler and Al-Zarqawi are/were technically war criminals, because of their inherent brutality towards their fellow human beings.
We are not talking about disabled human beings here. We are talking about murderous scum who get what is coming to them.
Your homepage is a tribute to you, no one else...
Sure. Nobody knows for sure. I've explained the uncertainty often enough. One, the ME is offering an untestable hypothesis. He's very probably right, but even he doesn't know for sure. Two, the discrepancy between cortical blindness at autopsy and observed visual capacity before death -- it was observed by many medical professionals -- can be explained by the dehydration.
I stand by my point that nobody thought she was blind before her death. That's why it was such a surprise to all. That's why it was news.
If it is your argument that "everyone knew she was blind" in the sense that her mind was incapable of processing visual information (cortical blindness), say so. And show me a poll of informed opinion where "everyone" agrees with your propositon. It's nonsense.
I don't believe anything from a man who changes his story.
If I had to choose one or the other, his comments to Terri seemed spontaneous and honest. What he said to the judge was a bunch of fudge. It was what he was imported all the way from Minnesota to say, to earn his fee. There are plenty of neurologists in Florida.
Felos, the death lawyer, hired to kill client's wife, in turn hires self-designated "Dr. Humane Death." Client's wife is duly put to death. Felos and firm take about half a million dollars out of dead wife's bank account. Also contribute the legal maximum to death judge's political campaign.
This is what some people call "due process."
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